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Old 06-28-2012, 09:15 PM   #1
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2012 XLR 27 HFS self destructiong

The trailer is a really low end product. Very cheaply made. Had same problem with 2 end cushions on dinette being way too soft. Factory replacements better but still useless. Collapse of cushion makes table way too tall. Will get our own cushions and replace the table with a portable or replace the entire dinette with a couch or chairs. Can't afford any more weight, though.

Most cabinet hinge and latch screws were stripped during installation. Replaced some but should have replaced all-the door over the sink fell off and broke into 2 pieces. Two days before that the fire extinguisher fell off the wall.

The freezer won't keep ice cream from melting. Ice cubes take 18 hrs to freeze. The refrigerator only gets to 42 degrees with nothing in it and no door openings for 18 hrs. Food spoils above 40.

Has anyone noticed the sticker in the garage says no more than 2000 lbs.? The entire load capacity of the trailer is 1650. Thought that would be enough for 1 atv and 1 dirt bike, it's not. With 1000 lbs in the garage, I have 7360 lbs of weight on the 2 3500 lbs axles. ???? Guess it was made to haul kids toys and bicycles.

The garage and exterior seems to be made ok, so far. The interior is falling apart after 20 days use. The shower curtain and the shower hose are junk both broke already. Will find something different for a curtain. FR replaced the hose; it broke first time used. Even one from Walmart is way better.

I mounted a tv to the wall but am afraid to leave it up when traveling. I'm sure the entire wall will come down.

Almost every time we open the door another screw or piece of something is found on the floor. Haven't found where all of them are coming from.

The fuel tank is nice but the filler neck is perfectly flat. You have to hold the fill nozzle upside down to keep it from kicking off constantly.

I'm ready to take my losses and get rid of it already.
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Old 06-28-2012, 10:19 PM   #2
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I had the exact same problem with my freezer two trips ago - melted ice cream & slow freezing ice cubes. Even 5 days later the single serving cups of ice cream were really soft. The following trip the freezer worked fine. As for the fridge temp it can be adjusted by moving the slider on the fin.

Finding mystery screws & factory dust on the floor is not uncommon. As for the other stuff - I am sorry that you are dealing with this. Hopefully soon you will be able to move on from the "fix it" list and get out camping!



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Old 06-29-2012, 03:25 AM   #3
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Other than the support in the dinette being screwed in at and upward angle(it broke with a 175lb person on it and the cushions stink. I am either going to build and add a middle support and use a twin mattress full time or add a couch or futon. As for the 2000 lb max in cargo area, if you want more get away from a hitch mount lite weight trailer and go with a 5th wheel. This model was made to be able to be hauled with a proper 1/2 ton. As for the crappy screwed in screws I agree. As for the Flat screen, I have mine attached full time but I have left the base of the Tv on to help support it while driving. I also use 2 pillows that are positioned between the screen and the slide out to protect it. Also a LED is much lighter than a LCD screen. I will be adding pictures hopefully soon as this is my busy season and not alot of day time allowed for free time.
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Old 06-29-2012, 05:54 PM   #4
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I don't understand the freezer working better after a time. Hope mine does the same. I have my temp sensor mounted as high as possible in the fridge. I had to tape it place but the unit will still not get any colder.

I understand about getting a 5th wheel for more capacity, etc. That would have been my preference. I have a 5 1/2 ft. bed half ton truck. The specs on the trailer make it look like it should work for what I needed. I didn't anticipate that even a partial load would overload the trailer axles and even push the weight limits of my truck's rear axle. It's promoted as half ton towable and the overall weight of the trailer is well within the tow limit but the axle weights are not. I can fix the cabinets, if they replace my door, and can maybe work with the refrigerator. The atv and motorcycle fit in the back ok and it allows me to do what I want so I'm hoping for more good times with it. It tows fine, I'm just concerned about the overloaded axle problem.

I just towed it 1500 miles with various stops in several Colorado OHV areas and it did fine so maybe I'm overly concerned. There is some great riding around Pagosa Springs, Durango and Taylor Park by the way. Rampart Range, too, but I haven't been there in a few years.

Thanks for your replies.
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I don't understand the freezer working better after a time. Hope mine does the same. I have my temp sensor mounted as high as possible in the fridge. I had to tape it place but the unit will still not get any colder.
It was just odd that we both had a problem with the same two items in the freezer around the same time. In your case it sounds like there might be something wrong with your freezer/fridge. The top shelf in my fridge is the coldest place in the fridge.
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What weight distribution hitch are you using?
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It's promoted as half ton towable and the overall weight of the trailer is well within the tow limit but the axle weights are not.
Half ton towable is true as long as the camper is empty.
This marketing "slight of hand" is used by everyone in the industry when talking about 5th wheels and 1/2 ton class trucks.

FR is not the only one doing this by a long shot.
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Namchief...I'm using an Equalizer with 4 point sway control rated at 10,000 lbs and 1000 lbs hitch weight. Makes it tow nice.

Yeah herk, I should know by now there is marketing and there is reality.

Terier...I think you may be right. It was so hot on our trip, I thought maybe a vent fan in the back of the fridge might help. But my temp testing was done early morning after a much cooler night. May try it anyway.
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That's interesting as it's been one of the quicker cooling and colder freezers I've had in a camper/rv. We have no problem with any ice cream we put in it. Whether it's on electric or gas it seems to be quick.

As far as capacity I do agree I don't know how you'd be able to use the trailer without overloading it (never understood how they justify making a trailers with such low capacities). Put 3-4 bikes in it, gas, water... poo a few times...
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Old 06-30-2012, 03:12 AM   #10
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As far as the cooling of your fridge.

Air flow is the key to cooling. If you are not cooling well, there could be a blockage in the chimney or dirt on the coils. You might even consider adding an aftermarket fan to boost airflow in the stack.
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