27 hfs, hauling harleys

10x · 01-26-2013, 08:38 AM

Hi, I have been on here before looking inquiring about a new toyhauler. Yesterday I stopped by Lazydays here in Tampa, FL. and checked out a 2013 27hfs. It appears they have improved a few things. I was wondering if this unit would handle hauling 2 Harleys a roadking and heritage softail? I have followed the thread on axles and have read about some issues related to weight. Does anyone else haul 2 harleys? Any info is appreciated.

Thanks

rattleNsmoke · 01-26-2013, 10:18 AM

Haul them? If I tried getting Hogzilla into a cage it would buck and snort all the way.

10x · 01-26-2013, 10:20 AM

I cant ride cross country like I used to due to back problems. It sucks getting old!

dwaynerz · 01-26-2013, 10:56 AM

will dealer let you put one in so you can see how much room is left first?

10x · 01-26-2013, 11:14 AM

There is enough room, I was wondering if the axles can handle the weight.
Your looking at about 1500 lbs. with both bikes.

rattleNsmoke · 01-26-2013, 12:15 PM

What's the cargo capacity on that unit? What are the axle's rated at? I bet if you can load them it'll be fine but ya gotta double check.

Oaklevel · 01-26-2013, 12:34 PM

I am not familiar with the unit that you are looking at. We have a 2013 Puma Unleashed 356QLB 5th wheel (35.5 ft) It has a seperate garage. It has a rated cargo cap of 4500 lbs The garage is rated at 2000 lbs. Two 7K axles. Total gross 14,500. All this info should be avail. for the toyhauler that you are looking at. Our empty weight was actually approx. 9600 as opposed to advertised at 9200. Love ours we were out the door taxes & everything for under 30K

Rotech · 01-26-2013, 12:57 PM

The 2013 27hfs should come with 4400 # axles which gives you over 3000 cargo capacity. The garage sticker says no more than 2000# in the garage.

10x · 01-26-2013, 02:12 PM

I saw that that changed a few things. The dinette cushions are good firm ones and it had a power awning. Rotech, are you happy with yours since the axle change?

Rotech · 01-26-2013, 04:29 PM

10X...I haven't used it loaded yet but think it will be fine. It always towed ok but just sat too low and leaned too much. I'll be taking it out in March if not before. Will report on how the larger axles do.

I'm glad they made changes. There are some good improvements in the 2013 model. The trailer has a great combination of garage space, options, floor plan, etc. with light weight and reasonable cost. It's a good choice for 1/2 ton TV, just watch the rear axle weight on the TV.

RFK · 01-26-2013, 05:54 PM

I did a lot of research before buying our 2013 XLR 27 hfs xp. I will be doing exactly the same thing. Two bikes about the same size 2007 Electra Glide Classic. I will be mounting 2 condor chocks in first but again all the numbers say it should be no problem, my sticker in the garage said not to exceed 2,100lbs hope this helps. Enjoy whatever you end up with

Trippster · 01-26-2013, 06:11 PM

2013 27HFS-EP with built in generator......comes with multiple weight stickers...yellow, white, red.....got them all. Somehow RV math doesn't seem to add up. Hope this gives you some idea of what you can carry.

Dry Weight: 6,858#

Cargo Capacity: 2,783#

GVWR: 9,700#

GAWR: 4,400#

FYI: We love the 27HFS.....seems to have everything we need and they have made some nice changes to the 2013; like the shower and the 8" frame with enclosed underbelly on the Extreme Package. If you are a weekender or occassional user, like us, don't think you can go wrong.

If you don't care about the garage, you might like the 24HFS......very nice as well.

Kaboom · 01-27-2013, 02:17 AM

10x, I dont think you will have a problem as long as you stay within the rated capacities of the tt and tv

We have a 2012 XLR 27HFS and haul two bikes, a custom FLHX and a Custom pro street for a total of 1534 lbs.

You just have to watch the total weight you are loading, food, wifes stuff, water, wifes stuff, fuel, wifes stuff, propane, wifes stuff, my little bit of stuff beacuse of wifes stuff.

After alot of trial and error I finally decided to used the wheel chocks available through harbor freight vs the condors. The Harbor freights are made from a heavy steel and are long enough to mount without having to drop a holding tank. Also, the Harbor freight chocks are alot less $$. I have used both and others over the years and each worked just fine. No matter what type of chock you decide to use it may not be a bolt in situation especialy if you what quick removal and a smooth floor after installation. I also spent the time to remove the factory wood screws from the floor tie downs and replaced them with bolts, large washers and lock nuts. ( Harleys are Heavy and Trailers Sway)

I agree Motorcycles should be ridden not trailered, but I also realize that sometimes due to physical pain and or time available, trailering is the only option. Besides If I had to choose between riding to the event and paying 2-3 times the normal rate plus a 3 night minimum for a questionable hotel room or staying in the tt I own or am making payments on ???.

10x · 01-27-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

10x, I dont think you will have a problem as long as you stay within the rated capacities of the tt and tv

We have a 2012 XLR 27HFS and haul two bikes, a custom FLHX and a Custom pro street for a total of 1534 lbs.

You just have to watch the total weight you are loading, food, wifes stuff, water, wifes stuff, fuel, wifes stuff, propane, wifes stuff, my little bit of stuff beacuse of wifes stuff.

After alot of trial and error I finally decided to used the wheel chocks available through harbor freight vs the condors. The Harbor freights are made from a heavy steel and are long enough to mount without having to drop a holding tank. Also, the Harbor freight chocks are alot less $$. I have used both and others over the years and each worked just fine. No matter what type of chock you decide to use it may not be a bolt in situation especialy if you what quick removal and a smooth floor after installation. I also spent the time to remove the factory wood screws from the floor tie downs and replaced them with bolts, large washers and lock nuts. ( Harleys are Heavy and Trailers Sway)

I agree Motorcycles should be ridden not trailered, but I also realize that sometimes due to physical pain and or time available, trailering is the only option. Besides If I had to choose between riding to the event and paying 2-3 times the normal rate plus a 3 night minimum for a questionable hotel room or staying in the tt I own or am making payments on ???.

What chocks do you recommend that can be removed and leave a flat floor?

Kaboom · 01-27-2013, 05:24 PM

10X , There are several chocks available that will work and are easy to remove. If you do a search on FRF you will find several post's regarding motorcycle chocks.

I personaly like a chock that will hold the bike upright while you attach the tie downs. Most of the hold upright style chocks are expensive, Condors for example run between 184.95 - 249.95 retail plus the floor adapter kit. The one from Harbor Freight made by US General is 89.95 but on sale right now with a coupon for 45.99 ( lot # 97841) . The frame on this chock is made from steel and the finish is not as nice as the Codor or others. It is also very heavy as compared to the others.

Mounting any Chock will require test fitting of the bikes, marking chock locations and then measuring keeping in mind the location of holding tank, fuel tank, frame cross members,ect. Fitting/Fabrication and finally mounting. With the HF chock you will have to fabricate detachable mounts . Mine are threaded metal plates installed under the floor and the bolts come down through the chock, floor and into the mount. I do have to use a socket and ratchet to install and remove.

A single bike in the center of garage is alot easier vs two bikes (again wifes stuff)

10x · 01-27-2013, 07:18 PM

Thanks Kaboom, went to the Lazy Days rv today and measured the garage. We also put down $500 refundable deposit. We have till wed. to decide if we are going to take it.