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Old 09-09-2012, 10:33 PM   #1
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27 HFS, should I buy one?

Been reading about all the negative stuff, is this trailer really that bad?
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:22 PM   #2
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Not familiar with the 27 HFS - what line does it belong to?
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:31 PM   #3
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Terier it is a XLR Toy Hauler.
10x, I don't know but I'm sure someone on here will.
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Old 09-09-2012, 11:59 PM   #4
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Ive only had mine a couple months but pretty impressed so far. People tend to only write about the bad stuff. If everything works they Dont say anything. From what i can figure there will be a few issues with pretty much any trailer you buy. I have had no problems, just tidied up some of the sloppy wires and hoses underneath, going to move the batteries off the tung and into the generator compartment. Just things like that.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:25 AM   #5
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I bought a 27 HSF in January and have had quite a few issues with it. I realize it is a relatively cheap trailer but that doesn't mean it can't be assembled properly. I must say that FR has so far been very good about sending me replacement parts (under warranty). They are items I can change out myself so I haven't had to take it to a dealer for repair. I installed an Onan generator, removed the external tray and mounted a box for 2 golf cart batteries there. I removed the junk dinette setup, rotated the table 90 degrees and put in a couple of Euro recliners to have a decent place to sit. That has made the living quarters much more comfortable.

My biggest issue was the undersized axles. I couldn't load the trailer anywhere near it's GVWR without overloading them. What was curious was the sticker in the garage warning to limit the weight to 2000#. The official weight sticker on the left front said the cargo capacity was 1650#. After weighing the trailer, I discovered there was only 1350# available for cargo to stay within the GVWR (It was empty when weighed). The unit came with 3500# axles that allows the tires to contact the inner side of the wheel wells. All four have cut through the liner of the wheel well. I'm surprised I haven't cut a tire. I have it loaded right at the limit because to boondock in the mountains to go trail riding, I have to take a full load of water and fuel. I'm only using it as it was designed-carrying an atv, fuel, water, generator, etc.

From this forum, I have learned that the 2013 models are coming with 4400# axles. The GVWR ratings have been bumped up accordingly. Make sure you get one upgraded. I was ready to unload this thing even though I've invested a lot in modifications but FR has stepped up and are going to upgrade my axles to 4400#. I take it to a local dealer this week to have that done. I will report how that goes when it's finished.

I have actually used it several times this summer and it has done what I got it for. It tows nicely behind my Toyota Tundra with a 4 way Equalizer WD hitch. I wish I had gotten a more upscale unit but it may work out for a while. I could use a bigger fresh water tank, the fuel filler could have some slope so gas wouldn't dribble on the ground while filling and I would like a slightly longer garage area. I should have gotten the cold weather package even though I won't be out much in below freezing temps. It's already cold enough at night above 10000 ft. to need dual pane windows.

All things considered, it is hard to find an alternative with the separate garage, the light weight for 1/2 ton towing and the features it has for the price. If I was to replace it for what I really want, I would probably have to go to a 5th wheel, spend more money and get a 3/4 ton truck. By the way, the biggest shortcoming of 1/2 ton TV's is the load capacity, not the towing capacity. If you will be using a 1/2 ton, spend time adjusting the WDH so the TV rear axle is not overloaded. Mine was until I readjusted it, now I have a 400# cushion.
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:00 AM   #6
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My trailer is the 2013, came with the 4400# axles. I tow it with a tundra and found the biggest problem was the cheap stock tires on the tundra. I also think they upgraded some things for the newer year, the seat cushions dont seem that bad to me but the table is wobbly. It is designed to be removed to make a bed. All the cabinet hardware was intact, and fairly nice. The 100% external led lighting is nice as you will never have a bulb go out. For generators i got two yamaha 2kw portable units that link together to make roughly 3500 watts, this is a much more reliable system than the on board generator at less than half the cost and now i have 2 nice portable units if i need to use them for something else as well. I also have the cold weather package.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:25 PM   #7
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Where do I find the info if it has the 4400 axles? Is there a tag on it?
The one I am looking at is supposedly a 2013, I want to make sure.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:29 PM   #8
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There is a tag on the axle itself or it is stamped into the cross tube.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:41 PM   #9
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I have to crawl under to see, there isn't anything else proving this besides seeing if the axles have the stamp?
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:40 PM   #10
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That's the only way I know to be sure. I would have it verified even for a 2013 model.
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