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Old 10-07-2015, 07:03 PM   #31
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i agree with the bigger longer door it would feel different underfoot . now can you tell the difference from a 425 without the patio system ?
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Old 10-07-2015, 07:07 PM   #32
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When I walk up the ramp on the 425 and when I would walk up the 29hfs the 425 feels more solid than the 29HFS. But again I think the basic door should still hold 500-600 lbs set up as a patio.


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Old 10-07-2015, 08:48 PM   #33
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I think we all just like to argue . But at least this is constructive and not over a F150. Lmao
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:36 PM   #34
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I don't want argue but what I did was take two jack stands put on each side where the cables go and then walked around on the ramp and it felt fine but I could feel flex in the ramp and I don't feel that in my 425. These are all my personal opinions and self test I have done. I always like to read any thread on things i encounter or mods I am considering just to get ideas and what their experiences have been when they make changes.
My suggestion would be to block up the ramp where the cables would attach and you are satisfied how it feels I would go for it.
So a little insight Ian 6'1" and weigh 256 lbs and rude a street glide so I am sure I would cause more flex than the average man.


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Old 10-08-2015, 06:56 AM   #35
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egladden,
What is the weight rating inside the toy area on the AMPs? It appears that all of them have bigger garages.
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Old 10-08-2015, 07:56 AM   #36
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Old 10-08-2015, 08:20 AM   #37
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What about some steel strapping on the underside (outside) of the ramp going from edge to edge? Would that work? It would be cheap.


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Old 10-08-2015, 08:57 AM   #38
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The issue with denting is about pounds per sqaure inch and the issue is the possibility of damaging the ramp by flexing it down in the middle (top to bottom) to the point that it can't spring back to its original shape.

When loading toys, the bottom of the ramp its supported across its width by the ground, but when supported by cables only the edges are supported.

If you put enough weight on the ramp at a sharp point it will dent the ramp. And, if you put too much weight on the ramp you could cause it to bow to a point of not being able to spring back. I would bet that a 950# Wing with a 225# rider only puts a little over half of that on the ramp at any point and that weight is spread over the tire patches (guessing 8 square inches) or, about 160 pounds per square inches on ramp at each of two points.

Consider a woman in heels can put between 1 and 4 tons of pressure (pounds per square inch) on the surface and certainly will do some damage. I would bet a 225# man sitting in a chair could put a ton of pressure on the surface as well.

So, care will have to be exercised; common sense needs to be used.

But, for me I will eventually get the cable mounts made and get it done. I will try to use common sense and if I can't or don't; I will expect to pay serious dollars for a new ramp door.
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Old 10-08-2015, 12:51 PM   #39
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So I guess the real question here is , can you use the existing ramp or do you have to replace it, doesn't seem to be an definite answer here
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Old 10-08-2015, 02:09 PM   #40
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Do you think the difference between the two ramps is just the difference of the hyperlite or reg XLR vs a Thunderbolt?
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