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Old 10-12-2015, 11:51 PM   #71
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Fr doesn't make the doors but they do design the unit , build it, and sale it , they should know the exact specs . I just don't think diane is the one to be asking .
All the extras you get with the kit is what you may be paying for. not a door .imo

if the doors come equipped with extra springs it could be to lift the extra weight of the rail system . old gold said it if it's just a thin sheet of metal in the door , that can be remedied .
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:07 AM   #72
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27hfs patio cable kit?

I could be wrong but when you ordered the deck option it was $2500 extra for the the whole deck kit - it wasn't $2500 for the door only and I believe XLR doesn't just sell door only but as a kit - like I said I could be wrong



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Old 10-13-2015, 01:57 PM   #73
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R3J, I can only count 6 springs (only?), but photo kind of fuzzy.

My Hyperdiaper 29HFS came without the patio option, and has 3 springs, but looks like two more could be added.
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Correction: WW you were right, I have only six springs


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Old 10-13-2015, 02:09 PM   #74
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Old 10-13-2015, 06:57 PM   #75
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Our 27 has 3 springs and 6 hinges. Much like your unit pictured above
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:41 AM   #76
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Some very interesting speculations in this thread. Please let me share with you my personal experience.

In 2012 I purchased a 2013 Hyperlite 27 with the full intent of using the rear door for a patio deck, even though this was not an optional accessory at the time. I inquired through the dealer about this possibility and was given similar evasive answers as expressed in this thread to my questions. I opted to design a ground support system instead of the cables that you see on other models.

In May of 2013, my rear door started to show signs of internal moisture from sitting in the horizontal position during a very wet weekend. I contacted my dealer and after sending several pictures, the door was replaced under warranty. It obviously had some sealing issues around the outside frame which allowed the moisture to penetrate when sitting in a horizontal position.

When I was at the dealer, getting my new door installed, by chance a factory rep was there for another situation. He was very nice to me and because I have an engineering background and knew some of the right questions to ask him, he invited me into an office where he opened up some engineering drawings of the the two different types of doors. 1) Standard door 2) Patio deck door. There were distinct INTERNAL differences between the two but most notably was an internal aluminum "U" channel spanning across the door from left to right located at the cable anchor point positions on the door. Structurally, this would prevent the weight of things placed on the deck from bowing the door when sitting in a horizontal position.

He expressed to me that I should not use a cable support system because my door was not designed for it structurally. I showed him a picture of my setup and he assured me that I should not have an issue with my ground support system.

Since then, I have used this method of supporting the door for a deck all the time with out problem.

For those of you who want to see documentation, I have none. The rep gave me nothing in writing and I was only allowed to see the electronic drawings on his computer, but after seeing the documents, I would not use a cable support system on a door not designed for the patio deck.
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Old 10-14-2015, 07:49 AM   #77
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A pic of my setup.
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Old 10-14-2015, 08:20 AM   #78
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Labs.. Nice setup!! Thanks for the other info too.
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Old 10-14-2015, 09:08 PM   #79
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Very nice . great set up ,like the storm doors you've installed
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Old 10-15-2015, 07:13 AM   #80
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Thanks oldgold and northstar. The doors open to allow loading of the toys but when closed allow a second entry door and window, making an all weather room. This becomes the "man cave". When the wife goes with, we can each have our room to watch different tv shows etc. During the summer months, the garage does get a little warmer which prompted me to install a second ac. I only use it when the temperature climbs above 90. During cold weather, I don't set up the deck and leave the rear ramp closed.
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