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Old 11-16-2015, 06:30 PM   #1
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27HFS wheel lug distance

Most likely a stupid question but I cant find the info anywhere. Can anyone tell me the lug spacing for the 15" wheels on the 27HFS? I want to upgrade to 16" rims and LT tires as I've had too many issues over the years with the ST tires, even nicer ones like Maxxis. There are too few choices in 15" vs. a large amount of 16" so am just going to up a size.

There are way too many 6 lug options for size...
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i would think you could get great lt e rated tires for a 15" rims . i went with e rated st tires and like them so far but next time around i'll be heading the the lt tire . i use a brand called Hercules . for both my truck and th
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:49 PM   #3
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There was only one 15" tore that came close to the rated capacity of the camper, a Goodyear Cargo G26. They're not badly priced from Tire Rack but locally they're $240/ea!

16" opens up a whole lot of options. Available anywhere if there is a problem and at all price points.
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You should read the article in trailer life about tires it all makes sense. When I tow I average around 62-65 never above my neighbor which has a lighter 5 th wheel runs 70 and up and he is constantly changing tires.


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Old 11-17-2015, 02:19 PM   #5
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You should read the article in trailer life about tires it all makes sense. When I tow I average around 62-65 never above my neighbor which has a lighter 5 th wheel runs 70 and up and he is constantly changing tires.


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I did read most of it (just got it). They even mention switching out to LT tires.

I dont speed. I check pressure before every trip. I have TPMS. I cover tires for long storage. I still had two blowouts with Zero warning. One was the cheap OEM tires that were brand spanking new on my Salem 26TBUD. Second was a 6 month old Maxxis M8008 which is one of the top rated ST tires on my Surveyor SP295. After that I upgraded to LT tires (Goodyear Wrangler HT) and put on thousands of miles. Not a single problem.

Thankfully no real damage occurred other than loss of time and changing a flat in 95* temps with cars going by at 75mph. I am not risking my camper or my family to some cheap tire when there are viable options out there.
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Goodyear has a 14 ply tire on the treat and side wall which I am switching to it is ST. I didn't take away from the article that LT is better because ST is for special trailer and the tread pattern is designed so that when you back up or get a tight turn and keeps the tire from rolling on the rim. I know some people that we camp with that switched to LT and on there three axle trailers if they jack hard the tire will try to roll up because LT tread design is made to give you traction which you don't need on a trailer.
I would recommend talking with a tire dealer that deals with towable RV's not motor homes.


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There was only one 15" tore that came close to the rated capacity of the camper, a Goodyear Cargo G26. They're not badly priced from Tire Rack but locally they're $240/ea!

16" opens up a whole lot of options. Available anywhere if there is a problem and at all price points.
I have been looking at that but for now working with 225 x 15, Carlisle E rated. 16 inch affects braking. Most are six lug unless you are buying something rare or custom drilled. The larger, puts larger load on what are probably only ten inch brakes and may impact wheel well clearance.. Then if you are five lug, probably C rated originally your axles might only be rated for 3500lb each anyway. JUST THINK IT THROUGH BEFORE YOU JUMP
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I have been looking at that but for now working with 225 x 15, Carlisle E rated. 16 inch affects braking. Most are six lug unless you are buying something rare or custom drilled. The larger, puts larger load on what are probably only ten inch brakes and may impact wheel well clearance.. Then if you are five lug, probably C rated originally your axles might only be rated for 3500lb each anyway. JUST THINK IT THROUGH BEFORE YOU JUMP
I went from 14" to 15" on my Surveyor SP295 due to the same problem. Severe lack of 14" tires (all ST) that were well rated and had a high load rating. I went with the Maxxis which was among the most recommended and I still had one blow out with no warning going 60mph on a flat section of road. No slow leaks, just tire is there one minute and the next nothing. I upgraded to 15" rims and Goodyear Wrangler HT Load E LT tires - put well over a thousand miles on them - zero issues at all. They held pressure better and I feel even rode better over rough pavement at the same load rating as the 14".

I have plenty of clearance, already measured. They are 6 lug rims and are carrying 15" ST Load D tires. Total weight of the 27HFS is around 10,000 lbs, so about 2500 per tire.

I dont understand why I have to keep explaining myself over and over again... I did the research, I have talked to many others on this, I have been towing campers from a PUP to our current toy hauler over many years. When I started I had no issues ever with Goodyear Marathons or Carlisle ST tires. I never even worried about them one instance other than checking for dry rot and holding pressure. Now it seems like manufacturers do the bare minimum to get by and the consumer gets screwed.

Apparently nobody has the answer so when I go pick up my camper next week from the dealer (small warranty work being done) I'll have to pull a wheel and look/measure. I'd contact FR if I knew how, all I have is a warranty number...
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Most likely a stupid question but I cant find the info anywhere. Can anyone tell me the lug spacing for the 15" wheels on the 27HFS? I want to upgrade to 16" rims and LT tires as I've had too many issues over the years with the ST tires, even nicer ones like Maxxis. There are too few choices in 15" vs. a large amount of 16" so am just going to up a size.

There are way too many 6 lug options for size...
Most 16" wheels are 6 or 8 lug, 15" are 4 or 5 lug. Clearance also may be a problem. I went to 16" wheels from 15" on an enclosed car trailer; replaced both axles at same time. 6 lug and bigger brakes.
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Most 16" wheels are 6 or 8 lug, 15" are 4 or 5 lug. Clearance also may be a problem. I went to 16" wheels from 15" on an enclosed car trailer; replaced both axles at same time. 6 lug and bigger brakes.
Do you own a 27HFS?! The Stock 15" wheels are 6 lugs. i need to know the spacing so I can order 16" 6 lug wheels and I was hoping not to have to pull a wheel just to find out.

If you read above you'd also see I measured for clearance. I've done this before on a camper with much less clearance.

I'm seriously ready to delete this thread...
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