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Old 03-14-2015, 05:36 PM   #21
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Roger that GDH. Everything that goes in will be weighed. Next trip it will have all my stuff and Tbird in the garage. I'm plugging into tool and actual scale will verify. It will be late April... Going to Leesburg area. Unless I do a trip first.
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Old 03-14-2015, 06:21 PM   #22
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I wish there were more CAT scales in the Northeast. There are none close to me and I am curious as to how much my unit and TV weights.
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:40 PM   #23
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actual 29HFS weight

Hmmm I Thought the reason to by the HyperLight was because its for light weight towing and 1/2ton towable --that's why I'm getting the HyperLight it's the only TH that's even in my TV weight class

I still don't think the # add up

Weigh your TV only - does it exceed the GVW with TH hooked up w WD hitch ?

Weigh your TH only - does it exceed TH GVW with TV hooked up w WD hitch?

Weigh each axle - only w TH hooked up and WD hitch installed ---- does the weight exceed any axle GVW of any axle?

This is more what to be concern about -more or less - if your under your axles GVW your pretty muck OK

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I'm not worried about the Weight - but time will tell - I've been wrong before lol





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Old 03-14-2015, 09:16 PM   #24
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These posts have been wonderful. I feel I will be ok with my 2004 3/4 ton GMC & WD but I'm looking forward to actually hitting the scales this spring when I get the TH in my possession. Nothing tells you the truth until you hit the scales...
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Old 03-14-2015, 11:15 PM   #25
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I'm pretty well convened on everything except tongue weight after I put 2k lbs in the garage.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:47 AM   #26
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I'm pretty well convened on everything except tongue weight after I put 2k lbs in the garage.
When you get your's, load 2000# in the garage and hit a certified scale and let us know how it does. Tongue weight will probably be around 400# based on the axles carrying equal weight.
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Old 03-15-2015, 11:55 AM   #27
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Hmmm I Thought the reason to by the HyperLight was because its for light weight towing and 1/2ton towable --that's why I'm getting the HyperLight it's the only TH that's even in my TV weight class

I still don't think the # add up

Weigh your TV only - does it exceed the GVW with TH hooked up w WD hitch ?

Weigh your TH only - does it exceed TH GVW with TV hooked up w WD hitch?

Weigh each axle - only w TH hooked up and WD hitch installed ---- does the weight exceed any axle GVW of any axle?

This is more what to be concern about -more or less - if your under your axles GVW your pretty muck OK
If it doesn't add up you have to tell me why not.

Only you can decide how much TH you are willing to drag with a half-ton, there are way too many variables. I would not pull my TH with a half-ton; not for love nor money.

I can also tell you that my best effort; based on weights alone, the 29HFS components are not overloaded even when GVWR is reached, if loaded and distributed properly.

Honestly I am a little confused by how you put it. It must be me, I am sure... but in your sentence to weigh "TV only" the next thought is "does it exceed GVW with TH hooked up with WDH?"

I think I know what you mean. This would be the information you would get by weighing all three axles: steer, drive and trailer at the same time, with WDH. I did this but without WDH and the combined was 14,540#.

This combined weight won't change with or without WDH. How much weight your WDH will need to move to get your TV level is something I cannot know.

If you match your requirement to the right WDH and adjust it properly, it can distribute enough of the tongue weight of the trailer to the TV front and to the trailer and based on what I see, won't exceed the capacity of trailer. I don't know about your truck.

Your half-ton hooked to my TH will have at least 1280# of tongue weight on your rear axle and lighten the front by at least 500#, can it handle that? But with WDH you will move 1000# of that, half to the TV front and the other half to the trailer, slightly more of less.

I am a fan of air bags and they will make the job of leveling much easier and made the ride smoother, and a combination of WDH and air bags worked well. My 2500 doesn't need it for the TH I have.

Until I load everything and hit the road and weigh again, I can't prove anything and what I provided might be worthless information.

My weighing goal was to get a bench mark, an unloaded weigh of truck and trailer; tongue weight, and individucal TH axle weight, which I got. And, could NOT get with WDH hooked up.

Will your truck pull a 9715# trailer? Plus with 2000# in the garage is the rest of the capacity of 724# going to do it for you? Many want to load 4000# of stuff, which isn't possible in this trailer.

Also, keep in mind with 2000# in the garage the tongue weight might only be 400# and the TW ratio below 5%, is that something you are willing to try?
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Old 03-15-2015, 02:02 PM   #28
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Lol - I was waiting for that 😜

Like I said I've been wrong before ---

Not all 1/2 ton are equal - the only thing that is 1/2 ton on a quadrasteer is the leaf springs -- which I have change out plus added 3/4 ton air bags, adjustable rancho shocks, E ply tires rims , 6 liter V8 gas have had this setup since I bought the truck new - hauled a 3000lb + camper on truck for almost 300k - plus have towed very big ski boats all my life not worried about TV --- very stable as the back wheels sit out wider than the front - love this truck if only they would produce them again - I'd be first inline for a new one.

Getting over complicated if you not over axle limits then everything is Ok that's all I was saying ( yes I understand u need a certain tong weight too)

No disrespect - just keeping post going 😃😃😃

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Will your truck pull a 9715# trailer? IF IT won't then you need A BIGGER truck


Plus with 2000# in the garage is the rest of the capacity of 724# going to do it for you?
#2700 is what you got . actually 3014 if you pull the electric queen bed .


Many want to load 4000# of stuff, which isn't possible in this trailer.

Agreed if so they are looking at the wrong TH .

Also, keep in mind with 2000# in the garage the tongue weight might only be 400# and the TW ratio below 5%,


That really depends on how you load the other 700


to be honest if this TH can't handle a fully loaded weight of 10,000 . then it is as i've said all along the trailer is not built for this purpose and should not be advertised as a TH . just because you put a garage in something does not make it so . I think forest river screwed the pouch on this one trying to accommodate 1/2 tonners . I know i will only have it a yr at most more then likely just 6 months get me through the summer then buy a real TH
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Old 03-15-2015, 04:06 PM   #30
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I have the same rated tow hitch as any 3/4 to same 6liter V8 same transmission same frame and yes I have towed 10k before --- my dad just bought a new ford 1/2ton it's rated at 11500 and tows great too - tows 3000lb dual trailer w Kabota tractor on it all the time.



Just saying there is not much difference in some 1/2 and 3/4 ton trucks these days now if We are talking 1 ton then that's a whole different story! Some 1tons are now rated to 30,000 lb on one axle now that's a beast

I only plan on loading a Can-Am Spyder in garage about 800 lb and some Kites don't think I'll be worried about over weight


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