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Old 01-28-2016, 09:36 PM   #1
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Axle rating on 27HFX

My wife and I are bouncing from the XLR 24, 27 or 29. We have concluded the 29 is a bit too much weight for our 1/2 2010 Chevy 5.3 with full factory tow and the 24 is a bit cramped so the 27 looks just right.

I was reading the specs and fliers for the umpteenth time and notice the GVWR is 9700 pounds but it had 2 3500 pound axles. Should that be correct or should it be corrected to 5,200 pound axles?
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:11 AM   #2
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that's correct . seems they like to skimp on axles . they figure you will be carrying the tongue weight and that's the way they justify putting smaller axles then should be there . the 29's have 4400 lbs axles with a total loaded weight of the trailer at around 9600 lbs leaving a deficit of 800 lbs . the big thing is the tires as none they install are rated to carry the full load . that's one reason i put the E rated tires on first thing .I would like to up-grade to the 5200 lbs axles and my do so sooner then later . the costs to FR to install the 5200 over the 4400 is nill . same with the 27 it should have the 4400
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Old 01-29-2016, 09:54 AM   #3
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One thing to remember, is that the GVWR is a calculated number. They don't start with that number and work backwards. The GVWR is calculated from the gross axle weight + the tongue weight. That number - the dry weight of the trailer gives you the CCC. So while it may look as though the axles are under sized, they are correct for each individual camper. Increasing axle size will not give you more CCC as the rest of the camper is engineered to carry a certain amount of weight, which is the projected GVWR during the design phase. That said, it appears that you may have the wrong info on the 27, as the calculations don't add up. If you put 4400 lb axles into the equation, all the numbers fall into line. 4400+4400+1018=9818 Rated GVWR 6794+CCC 3024 = 9818.
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The facts stay the same it's not about increasing cargo capacity it's about being maxed out with a full cargo . so yes the numbers work but your towing to the max rating of the axles all the time . better to put larger axles in so as to not be running at max capacity 100% of the time . IMO .
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The facts stay the same it's not about increasing cargo capacity it's about being maxed out with a full cargo . so yes the numbers work but your towing to the max rating of the axles all the time . better to put larger axles in so as to not be running at max capacity 100% of the time . IMO .

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This is true, but where does it stop? 7k axles, 6700 dry weight, 2200 pin weight= 16200 GVWR and 9500 CCC. It's not about maxing out the camper but getting the camper that will comfortably hold what you want to haul. The GVWR is the MAX that a trailer is rated for, if you are close to maxing out all the time, look at the next bigger model.
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Ericv what is your ccc of the 27?


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Website says 3024 CCC, that's what makes me think that it actually has 4400 lb axles instead of the 3500 he stated.
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My wife and I are bouncing from the XLR 24, 27 or 29. We have concluded the 29 is a bit too much weight for our 1/2 2010 Chevy 5.3 with full factory tow and the 24 is a bit cramped so the 27 looks just right.

I was reading the specs and fliers for the umpteenth time and notice the GVWR is 9700 pounds but it had 2 3500 pound axles. Should that be correct or should it be corrected to 5,200 pound axles?
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The specs for the 27 call for 4400# axles. If they are actually less than that you should tell FR about it.

p.s. FR's published hitch weight is 1018#.
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My 2013 27 HFS has 4400 lb axles. I Checked each axle some units in my model year were shipped with lighter axles.
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