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Old 09-17-2013, 08:15 AM   #11
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This is incorrect. I only seen a GVWR which is for the truck itself of 6,800LBS.

To answer the question truthfully and accurately when need a picture of your door sticker or if you can tell us what your GVWR (gross vehicle weight rating) and your GCWR (gross combined weight rating) is before we can go too much farther. It would also be hugely helpful for a weight of your truck full of fuel and you in the cab.

Subtracting your truck weight from the GVWR will give you the "payload" (additional weight/tongue weight will be part of this) you are allowed in addition before going over the manufactures listed rating.

subtracting your truck weight from the GCWR will give you the maximum the trailer can weigh. But remember to factor in toys, gear, people, pets, food and supplies...

If you can get us the GVWR, GCWR and a truck weight that would be great and we can help you...

Until that information is obtained here any other replies are really not even valid due to not having all the needed information... IMO...
Your opinion is incorrect.
These numbers come straight from Ford. Lacking any other information than that provided, these represent the most correct information that support my position that this truck is not rated to pull that camper.
Doesn't matter what formulae you use, that truck will be overloaded with that camper.
Dry weight of the camper exceeds his maximum tow weight. That's honest and it's accurate. No need to
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:38 AM   #12
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As I said earlier, all I see in the window sticker is the GVWR which is only part of the equation to find the payload of the truck. We need to know the actual current weight of the truck to find out what it has left available.

I do not see anywhere on that sheet a GCWR and without this or the vehicle weight we do not know what the overall weight the camper can weigh.

So I will stick by my answer of saying there truly isn't enough information here to fully determine.

My instinct would be the same as yours saying that it probably will be over loaded but I cannot commit to that answer as all the pieces haven't been laid on the table as of yet...

I am here trying to give the OP everything he needs to know, not just my assumption of he will be overloaded as you seem to be.
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Old 09-17-2013, 08:56 AM   #13
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As I said earlier, all I see in the window sticker is the GVWR which is only part of the equation to find the payload of the truck. We need to know the actual current weight of the truck to find out what it has left available.

I do not see anywhere on that sheet a GCWR and without this or the vehicle weight we do not know what the overall weight the camper can weigh.

So I will stick by my answer of saying there truly isn't enough information here to fully determine.

My instinct would be the same as yours saying that it probably will be over loaded but I cannot commit to that answer as all the pieces haven't been laid on the table as of yet...

I am here trying to give the OP everything he needs to know, not just my assumption of he will be overloaded as you seem to be.
I only relied on the window sticker to give me enough information to look his truck up in Ford's loading charts. Then look the camper up to find the advertised dry weight.
My assumption is that Ford, the manufacturer of the vehicle in question, knows what their vehicles are capable of towing.

Do you really see any way possible for a 1/2 ton truck that does not have the heavy-duty tow package installed with the smallest engine offered to pull that camper?
Keep in mind his maximum tow weight is 5000 lbs and the dry weight of the camper is 5578 lbs.

BTW, let's not forget the input of those folks who have answered the question based on their practical experiences.
You won't see that listed on any window sticker either.
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:02 AM   #14
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Your searches does make sense! I'm not questioning your credibility, but I personally would prefer to see the door sticker as I have seen a number of Ford flyers that vary from one to another. So to me it would be more appropriate to see the door sticker...

But, on the other hand, if you what you found is true, shame on Ford for making a half ton in that format! What the heck were they thinking? 5,000lbs of towing capabilities?

I would agree, just seeing F150 had me concerned about the ability to pull this trailer knowing what it is... But, you can't be too sure until one sees the placards on the door... I am dang impressed with some of the eco boost ratings... I don't see that being possible or it being able to last very long but I have been wrong more than once or twice...
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Old 09-17-2013, 09:11 AM   #15
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Here's the funniest thing of all -
Jesse_in_Dallas posted this single question, and hasn't been back since!
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Don't know what state you are in, but something else to consider is your driver's license restrictions. After 5 years, I just renewed my DL. Once I received the new license, I notice there was new restriction listed on it. I am not allowed to tow anything over 10K lbs. It's a new regulation for a "class c" Nevada DL. New on my license anyways, and it was not on my old one. Did not effect me much, (9500 loaded) but I have some friends who were stuck with some heavier trailers, and could not legally pull them. What they had to do was up grade their licenses, at a higher fee(s), to tow their plus 10K lb, heavier TTs. Not sure, but I think they had to get CDLs.
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Here's the funniest thing of all -
Jesse_in_Dallas posted this single question, and hasn't been back since!
doesn't mean he hasn't been back, he could just be reading the arguments looking for one that says he can!
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4.6L engine 3.55 gears 18" wheels (probably P rated tires) I don't think you will enjoy this towing experience. That trailer is going to be every bit of 6500 lbs once all set up and going.

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But, on the other hand, if you what you found is true, shame on Ford for making a half ton in that format! What the heck were they thinking? 5,000lbs of towing capabilities?
Not everyone buys a 1/2 ton to tow a camper with. Some just like to drive trucks as a daily driver. Or occasional pull a small trailer around with a mower or whatever a homeowner may need a truck for.
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doesn't mean he hasn't been back, he could just be reading the arguments looking for one that says he can!
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4.6L engine 3.55 gears 18" wheels (probably P rated tires) I don't think you will enjoy this towing experience. That trailer is going to be every bit of 6500 lbs once all set up and going.

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Not everyone buys a 1/2 ton to tow a camper with. Some just like to drive trucks as a daily driver. Or occasional pull a small trailer around with a mower or whatever a homeowner may need a truck for.


Not to start a fight with you but your post scares me. "Occasionally pull a trailer or camper" is what scares me. These are the people that are getting into trouble cause the vehicle is overloaded beyond GVW or CGVW or stickers or whatever you want to argue with. The tires are beyond limits, the tranny, engine, brakes, suspension, etc...

Putting you, your partner or passenger at risk and anyone around you. Including the innocent passer-by, It would seem that we all take chances with various things in our life and maybe it's a thrill or being thrifty or what ever your excuse is.

Buy a truck that will handle the job and your R.V. Researching your R.V. should include using your current vehicle if applicable.

Being a truck driver for a living this subject scares me every time it comes up, so call me over reactive or whatever. I see R.V.'s all the time broke down because the tow unit couldn't handle it. Just an F.Y.I. for those up here in Canada and in B.C. more specific D.O.T. is starting the crack down on RV'ers. They are going to be looking more and more at those larger 5'ers and trailers or units that look over loaded. Our local drivers license issuing facility already has endorsements for units over a certain weight (yes rv'ers too..!!).

I was also at a local dealership looking at newer trucks and the salesman stated that D.O.T. has suggested to the dealership to tell people towing 5ers use 1/4 of the trailer G.V.W. as pin weight/loaded weight. That is 3750lbs to my truck......that is all of a 3500 truck not including fuel, occupants, etc..... Do you see the writing on the wall yet..?!
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