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Old 01-06-2016, 03:38 PM   #21
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I guess Iím a bit like CHP because I donít care (to some degree) that much GVWR either. What I do care about is that the vehicle feels stable (subjective) and isnít laboring to keep me moving. Be a large farm tractor or a little scooter, you know when you are asking too much from the vehicle. I like the confident feeling of windows down, music cranked, cruise set for 70, and at the end of a 600 mile day my lower back isnít sore and my nerves arenít fried (like they are after driving 100 miles in a snowstorm). Itís been an enjoyable day on the road!

With the 6.7 thereís no laboring issues (itís a beast), and my comment about not wanting to tow anything much bigger is related to stability. I feel (again subjective) that Iím not that far away (weight) from a sore back and fried nerves. But I havenít towed anything largerÖso I really donít know.

Sound like you are going to have a great looking rigÖenjoy, and let us know how it does out on the road (Iím curiousÖ Iím might want to upgrade to a 375)!
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Old 01-06-2016, 03:50 PM   #22
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Congratulations on what has to be a lot if fun in your future. All the best to you and safe travels
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Old 01-06-2016, 04:01 PM   #23
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Just ordered a 2016 Thunderbolt 375amp XLR

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Okay guys! Where shall I begin. First of all I am a law enforcement officer here in California. The CHP does not care about GVWR when it comes to a non commercial rig. The only thing they care about is Rear tire capacity. Stickers that pertain to weight found on a vehicle is only there for the purpose of registration according to the CHP.


Now my pin weight dry and my rear axle loaded up with fuel and family will still be way below my rear tire capacity. Loading up the rear, like Karl4Cat stated, will actually drop your pin somewhat.

So, you are a LEO, and are ok with being over on your gross, max tow, and combined.....?
Not just a little bit either.
Fully loaded you will be 6k over your max tow.


Really?


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Old 01-06-2016, 04:34 PM   #24
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For what its worth, when we had our former Cyclone, it was close to 20,000 loaded. I had an '09 F350 SRW. Pulled it like a champ and extremely stable.

I swapped it out for an F450 just because I was way over on rear axle. Had it not been for that, we would have never changed.

Me personally. I would be totally fine with Nguyenbio's future set-up.
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Yep, that's the benefit of XLR's light pin weight compared to the competition... Keeps a SRW under on all weights but GCWR which is fabricated nonsense based on fluff and fairy dust.
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So, you are a LEO, and are ok with being over on your gross, max tow, and combined.....?
Not just a little bit either.
Fully loaded you will be 6k over your max tow.


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Per the CHP, they do not use the weight plate of the vehicle due to the fact that it's strictly for registration purposes. They are only concern about Tire Capacity and licensing. The tires are the weakest link of almost all towing situations.

The weight plate in California is used by the state to charge a weight fee in addition to yearly registration. I pay an additional 260.00 a year due to weight.
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:25 PM   #27
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You won't be over GVWR, GAWR, or tire ratings with the XLR's light pin. That's what first got me investigating XLR over the competition. Similar floor plans from other brands have pins 1k+ more. No matter how I load my garage or trailer, I'm never over my ratings except GCWR and I've been loaded around 20k. Back to regularly scheduled programming... Congrats on the rig. Now is a perfect time to fill the work bench with accessories for when she comes in....
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:30 PM   #28
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2888# pin is light?

We you get it all loaded, run across a scale, I'm curious to see the numbers!
I'm still debating a dually for my sabre, and it's only 15k gross!


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Yes, 2888# is light compared to most large haulers. A Voltage with the same floor plan is closer to 4k. The average 350 SRW has around 3000-3200 of scaled payload with the hitch and family in and fueled up. My pin with the garage empty and with the rest of the trailer loaded / ready to vacation is 2900# as per the CAT scale. Load the garage with 1500# and my pin is 2620# on the scale. (Also with the trailer loaded and ready to camp.)

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Garage with 1500#:



RAWR = 7k

Rear tire rating = 7500
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Since we're all hanging around here. Sir Rodney. Do you have any nice color larger pics of your set-up besides the little avatar?
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