Just ordered a 2016 Thunderbolt 375amp XLR

[MN John]

I guess I’m a bit like CHP because I don’t care (to some degree) that much GVWR either. What I do care about is that the vehicle feels stable (subjective) and isn’t laboring to keep me moving. Be a large farm tractor or a little scooter, you know when you are asking too much from the vehicle. I like the confident feeling of windows down, music cranked, cruise set for 70, and at the end of a 600 mile day my lower back isn’t sore and my nerves aren’t fried (like they are after driving 100 miles in a snowstorm). It’s been an enjoyable day on the road!

With the 6.7 there’s no laboring issues (it’s a beast), and my comment about not wanting to tow anything much bigger is related to stability. I feel (again subjective) that I’m not that far away (weight) from a sore back and fried nerves. But I haven’t towed anything larger…so I really don’t know.

Sound like you are going to have a great looking rig…enjoy, and let us know how it does out on the road (I’m curious… I’m might want to upgrade to a 375)!

[WolfWhistle]

Congratulations on what has to be a lot if fun in your future. All the best to you and safe travels
WW (can't wait to see photos)

[Kenny kustom]

Originally Posted by Nguyenbio

Okay guys! Where shall I begin. First of all I am a law enforcement officer here in California. The CHP does not care about GVWR when it comes to a non commercial rig. The only thing they care about is Rear tire capacity. Stickers that pertain to weight found on a vehicle is only there for the purpose of registration according to the CHP.


Now my pin weight dry and my rear axle loaded up with fuel and family will still be way below my rear tire capacity. Loading up the rear, like Karl4Cat stated, will actually drop your pin somewhat.

So, you are a LEO, and are ok with being over on your gross, max tow, and combined.....?
Not just a little bit either.
Fully loaded you will be 6k over your max tow.


Really?


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS

[KFX450RXC]

For what its worth, when we had our former Cyclone, it was close to 20,000 loaded. I had an '09 F350 SRW. Pulled it like a champ and extremely stable.

I swapped it out for an F450 just because I was way over on rear axle. Had it not been for that, we would have never changed.

Me personally. I would be totally fine with Nguyenbio's future set-up.

[Karl4Cat]

Yep, that's the benefit of XLR's light pin weight compared to the competition... Keeps a SRW under on all weights but GCWR which is fabricated nonsense based on fluff and fairy dust.

[Nguyenbio]

Originally Posted by Kenny kustom

So, you are a LEO, and are ok with being over on your gross, max tow, and combined.....?
Not just a little bit either.
Fully loaded you will be 6k over your max tow.


Really?


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS

Per the CHP, they do not use the weight plate of the vehicle due to the fact that it's strictly for registration purposes. They are only concern about Tire Capacity and licensing. The tires are the weakest link of almost all towing situations.

The weight plate in California is used by the state to charge a weight fee in addition to yearly registration. I pay an additional 260.00 a year due to weight.

[Karl4Cat]

You won't be over GVWR, GAWR, or tire ratings with the XLR's light pin. That's what first got me investigating XLR over the competition. Similar floor plans from other brands have pins 1k+ more. No matter how I load my garage or trailer, I'm never over my ratings except GCWR and I've been loaded around 20k. Back to regularly scheduled programming... Congrats on the rig. Now is a perfect time to fill the work bench with accessories for when she comes in....

[Kenny kustom]

2888# pin is light?

We you get it all loaded, run across a scale, I'm curious to see the numbers!
I'm still debating a dually for my sabre, and it's only 15k gross!


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS

[Karl4Cat]

Yes, 2888# is light compared to most large haulers. A Voltage with the same floor plan is closer to 4k. The average 350 SRW has around 3000-3200 of scaled payload with the hitch and family in and fueled up. My pin with the garage empty and with the rest of the trailer loaded / ready to vacation is 2900# as per the CAT scale. Load the garage with 1500# and my pin is 2620# on the scale. (Also with the trailer loaded and ready to camp.)

Garage empty:



Garage with 1500#:



RAWR = 7k

Rear tire rating = 7500

[KFX450RXC]

Since we're all hanging around here. Sir Rodney. Do you have any nice color larger pics of your set-up besides the little avatar?

[Karl4Cat]

Originally Posted by KFX450RXC

Since we're all hanging around here. Sir Rodney. Do you have any nice color larger pics of your set-up besides the little avatar?

How bout same pic only bigger?

[Karl4Cat]

This one and the previous are both with the garage empty so the truck sags a touch more due to increased pin.



Some would add bags to level but I prefer to let the factory suspension work as designed. The trailer is about 1" from level front to back and even closer with the garage loaded.

[WolfWhistle]

Love the simplicity of the colors. Any color as long as its silver, I say. FYI, an outlaw of mine tows with a Freightliner' sport chassis... a Carri-lite; 5 slides... It has 4000# of TW and gross combined of right at 28K#... He wouldnt pull it with a DRW one ton.
WW

[KFX450RXC]

Originally Posted by Karl4Cat

This one and the previous are both with the garage empty so the truck sags a touch more due to increased pin.



Some would add bags to level but I prefer to let the factory suspension work as designed. The trailer is about 1" from level front to back and even closer with the garage loaded.

Absolutely awesome. Thank you.

[Kenny kustom]

Originally Posted by Karl4Cat

How bout same pic only bigger?

That's awesome.


2016 Sabre 36QBOK
2015 Ram 3500 CUMMINS

[Homebrew]

Congrats on the new XLR! Make sure you post pics when you get it! Matching paint is a great option .🍻


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[Karl4Cat]

Thanks guys but I feel like a total thread hijack here...

[Homebrew]

???? Just saying congrats to a new XLR owner. What I do wrong Rodney ?


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[Karl4Cat]

Originally Posted by Homebrew

???? Just saying congrats to a new XLR owner. What I do wrong Rodney ?


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No no no my good man. It's me that looks like a hijack by posting pics of my rig. In other words, it's not you... it's me....

[Homebrew]

Got it 🍻


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