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Old 02-18-2016, 12:09 AM   #1
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looking at 2016 415 AMP

On the hunt for a full time toy hauler, and want feedback on 415 AMP. We only have 2 dealers within 4 hrs of us, and the closest only has the 420, which we didn't care for. Love to hear from owners, and anyone who has the 415. Thanks!
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:20 AM   #2
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Jeff Couch RV Nation has one in order - https://www.couchsrvnation.com/fores...rbolt/415amp25




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Old 02-18-2016, 06:30 AM   #3
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The 415 is the one I am wanting as well. National RV in Detroit has a 2015 for $59,900, we have looked at it twice, my only problem is the dealers that I have spoke with will only give me 22-25 on a trailer I still owe 43 on.
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Wife and I spend seven months/year in a MH. This year we're in a 415 and loving it. No problems, no issues...fine tuning as we go. Ten beds, four TV's, no waiting.

If we HAD to find a concern it would be...need more vent fans. We have two...gonna add two more.

We traveled four states to look at prospective units. Bought 415 130 miles away in adjoining state. Bought F350 200 miles into ANOTHER state. Took 90 days to determine what we wanted, another 60 days to find them in the market.

Gotta be patient to find the deal.
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Wife and I spend seven months/year in a MH. This year we're in a 415 and loving it. No problems, no issues...fine tuning as we go. Ten beds, four TV's, no waiting.

If we HAD to find a concern it would be...need more vent fans. We have two...gonna add two more.

We traveled four states to look at prospective units. Bought 415 130 miles away in adjoining state. Bought F350 200 miles into ANOTHER state. Took 90 days to determine what we wanted, another 60 days to find them in the market.

Gotta be patient to find the deal.
Yep, I found the deal, just no good on the trade in!!
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Old 02-20-2016, 07:33 PM   #6
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Have located one with all the colors we want, about 10 hrs away. Had the salesman send the build sheet, and take a video for us. Had a short detour, and started liking a new 2015 Raptor 405 ts, but for some reason they all had ugly decor, and some of the wood looked different tone. The XLR's have very good looking interiors.

How does their 4 season package compare? Have u encountered any cold weather?
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How does their 4 season package compare? Have u encountered any cold weather?
Have been living full time in ours for 14months. Loving it. Coldest temp we've seen was 14 degrees. No problems 'cept water lines to fresh water tank. Dump valve handle for rear lav gray tank comes out through about a 3" hole in frame rail. Fresh water line between tank and pump runs immediately behind this hole. On one very cold night, this line froze (no leaks or ruptures, but pump not able to draw water from tank due to frozen plug in line). I've learned that when extremely cold weather is forecast, to stuff a small rag into this hole - no problems since.
Garage has no heating vents and with the three seasons door, found it can get pretty cool back there (we use the room for computer workstations when parked). The doors do allow drafts at top/bottoms and door overlaps. We put up a drapery rod on the inside of the three seasons door and hung thermal drapes . With this addition, room stays warm with a small electric heater 'till temps in mid 20's. We had our bedroom AC moved to garage (It's prewired back there). Plan to upgrade garage AC to a heat pump - we wont need the electric heater then. If we expect temps lower than about 25-30 we just close the ramp.

We absolutely love the 415AMP - have not found ANYTHING we would trade it for.
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The family and I have been FTing in ours since October. As stated previously, no issues with temps dropping into the 20's. We saw a few single digit days which caused water lines to freeze at the low-point drains which caused no water to the kitchen or rear bath.

Ours is an early 2016 model which does have a heater vent in the garage, but it is reduced to a 2" duct and really does not do much to heat the garage. The garage is not horribly insulated due to the fuel tanks underneath the floor requiring to be open to the air and the rear door does draft quite a bit. We solved this by adding some of those foam anti-fatigue mats on the floor. As far as heating, we use a space heater which works pretty well.

If you go with the residential fridge, it won't come plumbed for the ice maker. Not the end of the world, but the dealer probably won't tell you.

We have had a few issues with ours to include a leaking front cap, water leaking underneath the shower door, loose connections under kitchen and front bath sinks on the cold water side, and a large leak at the front black tank flush (we do not have a rear black tank flush, but I heard they were planning on adding it so you may get it with the current 2016s). Not saying these issues are to be expected as others have had no problems, but you may run into them during your shake down.

Overall we have been happy with our 415AMP, most of our complaints/frustrations have been with the dealer we got ours through. As long as it meets your needs on a functional manner, most everything can be worked through and/or customized to taste.
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Oh, and if none of the dealers have one in stock, you can always have them order one for you. Downside, it may take 6-8 weeks or so before you get it. Upside, you can order it with all the features you want.
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Great info! The NW is heavy on Raptors and Fuzions, and while they're nice rigs, we just couldn't find one that suited our needs. We plan on living it for a yr or so, up here, before moving to SoCal. We don't have to many bad winters, and tend to stay right around freezing during the coldest times. I'm sure we'll be more concerned with the A/C part, in the warmer climate.

What tilted your choice to the 415, over the other floor plans? We've only saw the 420, in person, we didn't care for the party deck, and what it takes away from the living space. We've looked at plenty of Keystone products, and Dutchman. A few other makes and models as well. None really caught our eye, like the XLR amp series. For the price, they seem to offer a great product.
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