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Old 03-27-2015, 10:59 AM   #111
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This is my last day in the ecoboost it's my dads truck we took it because we thought it would save a few dollars on fuel --- lol was I wrong - yes this truck has no problem towing 8k in any condition including steep hills - no strain on motor at all - just very bad MPG when towing or over 70mph - I'll have my quadrasteer Chevy 6l gas back tonight and the minimum I've ever gotten is 10mpg ave 10 to 15Mpg -- I'm just documenting my experience w the ecoboost and thought about even getting one - it's a really nice truck - (kinda high end car like inside) but it can tow probably 12k but it's still a very light truck and over 70mph you better be on your toes because it can get swaying pretty fast in those grooved highways - I did have the antisway built in feature on this truck kick in once - cool safety feature - my truck is at least 1500lb heavier.

All in all Its a very nice truck but the only reason I'd replace my truck would to be to increase my Milage not by a little but the claims ford makes on the ecoboost - and those claims are not correct for the type of use I use my truck for.

Plus it's been very hard not having Quadrasteer


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Old 03-27-2015, 11:16 AM   #112
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Dustman

This is my last day in the ecoboost it's my dads truck we took it because we thought it would save a few dollars on fuel --- lol was I wrong - yes this truck has no problem towing 8k in any condition including steep hills - no strain on motor at all - just very bad MPG when towing or over 70mph - I'll have my quadrasteer Chevy 6l gas back tonight and the minimum I've ever gotten is 10mpg ave 10 to 15Mpg -- I'm just documenting my experience w the ecoboost and thought about even getting one - it's a really nice truck - (kinda high end car like inside) but it can tow probably 12k but it's still a very light truck and over 70mph you better be on your toes because it can get swaying pretty fast in those grooved highways - I did have the antisway built in feature on this truck kick in once - cool safety feature - my truck is at least 1500lb heavier.

All in all Its a very nice truck but the only reason I'd replace my truck would to be to increase my Milage not by a little but the claims ford makes on the ecoboost - and those claims are not correct for the type of use I use my truck for.


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I hear ya. I hope you know I was just kidding around about slowing down in the Chevy- that's what the smiley was intended to convey.
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Old 03-27-2015, 01:19 PM   #113
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Something tells me Bob won't be giving this a go...
Your right but it would be a good eye opener for FR Reps...
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Old 03-27-2015, 04:26 PM   #114
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Something tells me Bob won't be giving this a go...

All suggestions taken seriously. The one thing about me is that I am a full time camper during summer months. When I retire in a few years I will be a full timer. Love to camp and love to travel. We are working on the cable storage issue's and unfortunately there is not a lot I can do about heat in the garage. The hyper lite units have the least a of insulation of the three lines that we build.
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Old 03-27-2015, 04:49 PM   #115
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Bob,
Really do appreciate your time and input on the forums. I'm VERY happy that you read the comments and try to make changes to the product where possible. We as consumers have the options to spend our money on more expensive lines within FR and we need to remember the price is cheaper on some lines for a reason.

I'm very excited to receive my 29HFS at the end of April. And to be honest, I'm excited to install some upgrades I have learned on the forum.

Have a wonderful weekend....
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Old 03-27-2015, 04:53 PM   #116
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All suggestions taken seriously. The one thing about me is that I am a full time camper during summer months. When I retire in a few years I will be a full timer. Love to camp and love to travel. We are working on the cable storage issue's and unfortunately there is not a lot I can do about heat in the garage. The hyper lite units have the least a of insulation of the three lines that we build.
I was referring to the camping in the corporate parking lot suggestion Bob. Not insinuating that you didn't camp or had no personal experience or interest.

However, if you are indeed passing suggestions from the end user up the chain of command, please keep in ming my concern about the deletion of the main living area radio in my model... I have my solution on my work bench waiting for the rig to come home but other potential customers may appreciate it's return.
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Old 03-27-2015, 04:57 PM   #117
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PH, thanks for the great info; hopefully excellent reviews like yours will bring improvements and not fall on deaf ears.

I thought about the EcoBoast, but glad I bought the less expensive Ram with the 6.7L CTD (6 speed auto and 4:10). It gets 10 to 10.5 mpg towing the 29HFS at near capacity. I was loaded with the bike some lumber and tools (long story) but stayed below 65 mph. By itself it gets 15 - 16 mpg in town and 18+ interstate; if it wasn't for the ridiculous regeneration mode, it would average 20+. And will when the warranty runs out. Ole WW is going stop that c--p. If you haven't driven one, you won't believe the torgue and its a wimp compared to the new ones. That equates to more fun and easy towing. It isn't fancy as a loaded Laramie or your Dad's truck, just a work truck. If I did it again, it would be a 4x4. I'm betting your quadrasteer will get around 8 to 9 mpg towing your new trailer. And, congrats again! Thanks for taking us all along with you. Now, we need to do that on our next trips.... hint, hint!
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Old 03-27-2015, 05:04 PM   #118
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All suggestions taken seriously. The one thing about me is that I am a full time camper during summer months. When I retire in a few years I will be a full timer. Love to camp and love to travel. We are working on the cable storage issue's and unfortunately there is not a lot I can do about heat in the garage. The hyper lite units have the least a of insulation of the three lines that we build.
Bob, thanks for being here and being so graceful in your communication. I have to wonder if a 35K BTU furnace would fit the space (and I am not sure), why not? Especially since you know the insulation is lacking. Maybe adding a couple of ducts under floor; one to the other side of garage and one to front bedroom would help, too. If you don't already offer it, make 30# cylinders an option. FR might as well make money on the upgrade, rather than aftermarket. 20's just won't cut it for many of us.
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Old 03-27-2015, 06:26 PM   #119
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Got to remember this is an ultra light toy hauler travel trailer. It is likely not insulated nearly as well as a larger and much heavier fiver th. Can only out so much material in a 7-8k lbs trailer and still be able to carry a couple thousand lbs. I have to believe one could dive into it and upgrade the insulation etc pretty cheaply (as noted previously in the thread).
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I was referring to the camping in the corporate parking lot suggestion Bob. Not insinuating that you didn't camp or had no personal experience or interest.

However, if you are indeed passing suggestions from the end user up the chain of command, please keep in ming my concern about the deletion of the main living area radio in my model... I have my solution on my work bench waiting for the rig to come home but other potential customers may appreciate it's return.

Just had the sales team in this week and the radio (or lack there of) was discussed. We are meeting next week with our suppliers to discuss next year's options. Also during our meetings, we posted on our Facebook page for ideas and input for up and coming model year changes. Lots of people had great ideas on there as well. Lots of good ideas came from the meetings. Gonna be another busy year. Keep on commenting and giving suggestions. That's how we grow and produce the best toy hauler on the market.
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