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Old 03-31-2016, 08:39 PM   #521
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Oh one more thing
From the Jbox to the brakes is 14ga wire with the return back up in the Jbox. Dexter / Lippert says if over 30' and it is... should be 10 ga. I ran a separate 10 ga to each axle and grounded the return (neg) right at the axles. Cleaned to bare metal with grease. I adjusted brakes and can't wait to see if they are better. Waiting for my Andersen hitch before trying. The protege p3 is another improvement. If this won't stop it, electric over hydraulic is next.
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Old 03-31-2016, 09:07 PM   #522
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This is a bundle special, includes GPS and Back Up camera.
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Finally got the awning poles from Turbs installed today at the storage lot. Can't wait for some nicer weather to bring the camper home for some mods on the super pantry. Come on mother nature and get us out of the 40's.
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Tell me more about the awning poles . do you think they will help with a wind or breeze . we have long awnings and the supports are fragile at best, hoping your awning poles make a difference
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Old 04-03-2016, 10:43 PM   #525
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Oh one more thing
From the Jbox to the brakes is 14ga wire with the return back up in the Jbox. Dexter / Lippert says if over 30' and it is... should be 10 ga. I ran a separate 10 ga to each axle and grounded the return (neg) right at the axles. Cleaned to bare metal with grease. I adjusted brakes and can't wait to see if they are better. Waiting for my Andersen hitch before trying. The protege p3 is another improvement. If this won't stop it, electric over hydraulic is next.
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putting an andersen on . what prompted that . also it's no suprise to find under gage wire . not eve up to the axle manufactures specs . seems FR is not following instructions
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Tell me more about the awning poles . do you think they will help with a wind or breeze . we have long awnings and the supports are fragile at best, hoping your awning poles make a difference
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The awning poles are supposed to help with the wind. Basically, you strap down the awning via the poles and a mounting plate that you install. There is a very long thread here - Awning hold down poles. That you can contact Turbs for the price and shipping info. But a quick view of the install is here - Turbs awning pole install with pics.

Working with Turbs was very easy....
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Old 04-04-2016, 11:20 AM   #527
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putting an andersen on . what prompted that . also it's no suprise to find under gage wire . not eve up to the axle manufactures specs . seems FR is not following instructions
Just one of the things on my list. I've had trouble stopping the thang. So, got out the tape, and took a look see. As well as pulling out my Lippert / Dexter manuals... actually on laptop.

The curb side brakes feed internally in the axles from the street side in what looks like 16 ga wire, it might be 14 ga at best. The holes and grommets won't take anything larger, but could be drilled out. So, I left those alone for now.

When you add that 8 feet (slightly less) down the axle to the 14/2 conductor in a red sheath FR ran, I get 30 feet total and surprisingly I found about 5 feet of slack for no reason. I saw that when I tied up all the loose wire way back when, but it didn't dawn on me to shorten it then.

It is normal for the return (-) to be in the same sheath or jacket, but doing so according to my calculations the total voltage drop would be 30% like they did it and about 4% like I did it.
Four 12" brakes offer about a 16 amps of load. With a total conductor length of about 60 feet from the factory... the way I did it; 18 feet of 10 ga plus with a 4 amp load plus another 8 feet of 14 ga with another 4 amp load out there. Two runs.

I am anxious to test the brakes. I'm going to install the P3 today.
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so whats the cost of those awning pole hold downs ?
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Seems like FR with using undersized wire on the brakes will be leaving themselves open to all kinds of suits if people have issues that cause loss of property or life because they used wire not adequate in size and it does not match the axles manufactures requirements .
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so whats the cost of those awning pole hold downs ?
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You will have to ping Turbs on the price. He has options on which pole type (emt or aluminum) and powder coated or not.
In the end, it's a good product shipped to your house with all the mounting hardware.
I will be using regular rachet straps with dog screw achors.
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