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Old 11-29-2015, 09:35 PM   #31
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It depends on what you're planning on doing with the Trailer and on how deep your pocket book is and how much discomfort you're willing to put up with in a HD Truck....

If you're going to travel the country and put thousands of actual towing miles on the TV, then yeah,get the 2500 with the Diesel. You'll need it.

A dually would be even better but remember something -- You're not going to be hooked up to the trailer 24/7/365. You're going to have more money in, and spend more time in, the TV than in the TT so...... That's got to be comfortable, too. Which HD Trucks aren't known for. And wait until it's time to put tires on that Dually.

If you feel you need an M1 Tank to tow your trailer, then get one. But here's the deal....

1/2-Ton pickups aren't set up from the factory to tow all that well. They don't have a sway bar on them and their springs aren't all that and a happy meal.

Some SuperSprings and a Hellwig sway bar for a 1/2-ton can run you just over $500 total if you install them yourself (springs are easy, sway bar you need an extra pair of hands but can be done by yourself, although it's no fun [I know])and will improve the towing ability of your truck immensely

But if I had it all to do over again...... If I were starting from scratch, I'd get the F-250 with the Diesel.

If you already have a 1/2-ton, I'm just saying there's no need to despair..... And Suburbans are not good tow vehicles despite their reputation from the 1970's as being such. They're just not --Not compared to a Pick Up

You also get more than just a suspension and a BigAssô Motor. In the F-250 you get a MUCH stronger transmission and bigger, better brakes.

So yeah, if you gotta get a new truck anyway, get the HD. But they don't ride like the 1/2-Ton.

Unloaded, I can cruise down I-75 at 75 MPH having a quiet conversation with the DW and listening to Steely Dan while getting 23 MPG in my F-150 with the Coyote V8.

But like I said, I'd probably get the F-250 if I were starting from scratch.

Confused yet?
Na just really dizzy. So you miss that diesel eh?
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Old 11-29-2015, 09:43 PM   #32
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Miket...

It was a 1998 Dodge 2500 with a 360 engine.
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Here's my new to me truck on its first test run.

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If I read it right, the '98 360ci has 250hp and 335lb/ft torque; if true no wonder you didn't like it. It is rated with a lot of payload and towing up around 10K#, but to do it you have to wind them tight. I had a Chevy half with the 5.3L when I had the Trailmanor (4000# GVW) and since the rating to tow was 9500# I thought going to a Greywolf 21RR wouldn't be a problem... I was very very wrong. The minimum torque for me with these Hyperlites is 400 to 450, but at below 3000 RPM. As far as I know, it takes a diesel or a Ecoboast to do that. Since my CTD cost less than a EB... wallah!
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Well the hitch holds the trailer much better with your dodge(don't know why) but the Duramax will kick it's ass towing.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:07 PM   #34
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Well the hitch holds the trailer much better with your dodge(don't know why) but the Duramax will kick it's ass towing.

I had air bags on the Dodge. I just hooked the trailer to the Chevy and went for a test ride. Really wanted to see the how much difference there was between the two trucks. May add the bags to the Chevy in the spring.
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Old 11-29-2015, 10:19 PM   #35
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Well you will go from 3/4 MPG to 12/13
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I'm new at this as well. I bought a 15' Ram diesel 3500 SRW 4x4 and tow a 33' 10,000lb 5th wheel. On my first trip towing, I was able to climb a 7% grade hill at 55 mph with no effort what so ever. On the return trip, the Automatic mode on the factory brake controller allowed me to descend the same grade at 50 mph WITHOUT TOUCHING THE BRAKES at all. Towing in hilly country from sea level to about 3000' I got 13.3 MPG. Without the trailer, I drove 1400 miles from Idaho to Southern California and averaged 21.3 MPG.

Buy a BIG truck. The cost difference between a 2500 and 3500 is insignificant. I STRONGLY recommend the diesel. However, it is an expensive option. The diesel is well worth the added expense.
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I'm new at this as well. I bought a 15' Ram diesel 3500 SRW 4x4 and tow a 33' 10,000lb 5th wheel. On my first trip towing, I was able to climb a 7% grade hill at 55 mph with no effort what so ever. On the return trip, the Automatic mode on the factory brake controller allowed me to descend the same grade at 50 mph WITHOUT TOUCHING THE BRAKES at all. Towing in hilly country from sea level to about 3000' I got 13.3 MPG. Without the trailer, I drove 1400 miles from Idaho to Southern California and averaged 21.3 MPG.

Buy a BIG truck. The cost difference between a 2500 and 3500 is insignificant. I STRONGLY recommend the diesel. However, it is an expensive option. The diesel is well worth the added expense.
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Here are the corrected numbers: I picked up the truck in Idaho. I drove to San Diego via Yellowstone and Teton National Parks. Total distance was 1740 miles. I was not towing anything and the only load was two people, light luggage and a 5th wheel hitch. For the 1740 miles my overall average gas mileage was 21.5 miles per gallon of #2 Diesel fuel.

On my first outing towing my trailer I drove 400 miles and got 13.3 miles per gallon. As I said, I'm new at towing a 5th wheel trailer. The performance of the truck is much better than what I expected. The photo below was taken when I pulled into my driveway when picked up the truck. IMHO, that's pretty good performance for a Crew Cab Ram 3500 Diesel HD Truck. I love that truck.

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Here are the corrected numbers: I picked up the truck in Idaho. I drove to San Diego via Yellowstone and Teton National Parks. Total distance was 1740 miles. I was not towing anything and the only load was two people, light luggage and a 5th wheel hitch. For the 1740 miles my overall average gas mileage was 21.5 miles per gallon of #2 Diesel fuel.

On my first outing towing my trailer I drove 400 miles and got 13.3 miles per gallon. As I said, I'm new at towing a 5th wheel trailer. The performance of the truck is much better than what I expected. The photo below was taken when I pulled into my driveway when picked up the truck. IMHO, that's pretty good performance for a Crew Cab Ram 3500 Diesel HD Truck. I love that truck.

Not bad for a Fiat......
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We are new to the camping world just bought a 2015 XLR hyper lite 29HFS we have only pulled it twice we have a 2008 suburban that we are using now not real comfortable pulling it with the suburban looking to buy a pick up but not sure which one to go with what do most of you pull yours with we have a 2014 Harley limited that will be putting in the back but have not pulled it with the bike in the back
This thread is amusing. The OP asks about "Chevy 1500 or 2500" and gets everything but recommended to him, including an M1 tank

Get the 2500HD with 6.0 gas.

That is unless you are towing the trailer a substantial amount of the time, then I would go for the 2500HD with Duramax and Allison. No matter what the discount or incentive is, the diesel package is a about a 9K add. You have to be towing thousands upon thousands of miles before the fuel savings offset the added maintenance / potential added maintenance and up front added cost. The added ponies and torque is nice, but is it required unless your going out to the Rockies every weekend or full timing? That's your call. I've never been able to make that math work unless I intended to be full timing, and the days of me needing to have the biggest baddest ride on the block are behind me. I don't need the testosterone boost and sure don't need the bank account hit to get it.

Don't worry about ride when unloaded / not towing. That's a load of BS at least where the GM 2500's are concerned. I'll put my 15 GMC 2500 HD ride as good as, or better than, any 1/2 ton truck out there when unloaded. That includes my 13 F150, which is a bouncing piece of crap on a concrete highway when its unloaded.
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