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Old 04-02-2017, 10:32 PM   #1
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Tire wear

This is really irritating, only 3300 miles on this trailer since new and one tire is down to 3/32 on the shoulder. The other 3 are between 7 and 4/32, new they are 9/32. Been keeping the pressure at 75 to 80# as per sidewall numbers. Axles don't seem to be aligned properly, working with dealer and Lippert Ind now. Lippert seems to want to put us off with more questions and pictures. But now the it's getting too late, we are camping quite regularly so the miles are adding up and it's about time to replace prematurely worn out tires.
Wish I had a picture of the right side wheels with a straight edge on them. Both tires are headed in one direction but not straight inline..
The left side isn't quite as differing in alignment. Now to just get some answers and action from Lippert. Our dealer has been super on fixing things so far, just FR wouldn't deal with the axles, told us to get hold of Lippert
That's where we are stalled now. I hate to put new tires on faulty axles.
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Old 04-03-2017, 04:10 AM   #2
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Good luck............FWIW do a web search for problems with Lippert axles. You are not alone by a long shot.

Lippert at one time, back around 2011 or so, were awesome on the customer service side. Something changed.............I suspect greed.

Now days red tape and delay tactics are Lipperts MO. They must hold classes to teach their people how to drag out the process until the customer simply gives up. I attempted to deal with them when their weak water tank supports failed on the way home on the day of purchase, as I was told that's the route I had to take by Rockwood. The supports were a "component". It would of taken months for resolution if in fact it ever was resolved. I modified and repaired it myself, which is what Lippert wanted all along. They have perfected putting the screws to the customer. That essentially made both the FR and Lippert warranties essentially worthless to me.

I think I would be seriously thinking of a change to Dexter axles on my dime.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:47 AM   #3
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Mr Havercamp, I understand what you are saying very well. This has been a consideration for the past week. If the brakes will fit the Dexter axles I believe I can do it fairly "cheap". Maybe less than $400, I hope. That would be less than what it costs me for two more trips to the dealer we purchased it from, considering fuel, overnight expenses, etc.
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Old 04-03-2017, 11:51 AM   #4
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Simple alignment issue. Bite the bullet and take it to a truck trailer alignment shop and have it done. Go camping.
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Old 04-03-2017, 12:40 PM   #5
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X2-"Simple alignment issue. Bite the bullet and take it to a truck trailer alignment shop and have it done. Go camping."
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Old 04-03-2017, 08:42 PM   #6
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It appears that your right front tire is the one wearing on the outside edge. This is exactly the same tire wear problem we had on our toyhauler. We own a 2016 Sandstorm T281GSLR which is the same model as yours just different stickers.

When I towed ours I could look down the entire left side of the trailer. When I braked the trailer would pull to one side. The trailer was being towed down the road crooked. I noticed the right front tire was worn on the outside and the other tires had odd wear patterns also. I also thought it was a bent axle.

Our dealer worked with Forest River and Lippert and found that the frame was welded together wrong. It took many measurements and phone calls. The most important measurement was the cross measurements from the left front corner to the center spring hangar on the opposite side and vice versa. Both of these measurements should have been within 1/4" of each other. Mine were 1 7/8" off from each other.

After about a month at the dealership Lippert sent a field technician to address the problem. The tech cut off the right side spring hangers from the main frame and moved them back approximately 1" then welded them back onto the frame. He then laser measured the frame and made sure everything lined up. When I pulled the trailer back home I couldn't see the entire left side anymore and the trailer felt as though it braked straight now. The trailer was repaired in November and we haven't started using it this year yet so we will find out if this repair corrected the tire wear problem. Between Lippert and Forest River all the tires were replaced.

This may or may not be your issue but it sure does sound familiar. Good Luck!
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If you have a 4x4, truck and trailer brake and front end shop in town...that would be the place. Tell them your trouble and see what their response is. I bet they have fixed this many times.
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Thanks, I've already got an appointment for an alignment, can't wait on Lippert any longer. Not going to put new tires on bad axles.
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It appears that your right front tire is the one wearing on the outside edge. This is exactly the same tire wear problem we had on our toyhauler. We own a 2016 Sandstorm T281GSLR which is the same model as yours just different stickers.

When I towed ours I could look down the entire left side of the trailer. When I braked the trailer would pull to one side. The trailer was being towed down the road crooked. I noticed the right front tire was worn on the outside and the other tires had odd wear patterns also. I also thought it was a bent axle.

Our dealer worked with Forest River and Lippert and found that the frame was welded together wrong. It took many measurements and phone calls. The most important measurement was the cross measurements from the left front corner to the center spring hangar on the opposite side and vice versa. Both of these measurements should have been within 1/4" of each other. Mine were 1 7/8" off from each other.

After about a month at the dealership Lippert sent a field technician to address the problem. The tech cut off the right side spring hangers from the main frame and moved them back approximately 1" then welded them back onto the frame. He then laser measured the frame and made sure everything lined up. When I pulled the trailer back home I couldn't see the entire left side anymore and the trailer felt as though it braked straight now. The trailer was repaired in November and we haven't started using it this year yet so we will find out if this repair corrected the tire wear problem. Between Lippert and Forest River all the tires were replaced.

This may or may not be your issue but it sure does sound familiar. Good Luck!

Not knowing where your Sandstorm was built I'm curious as to the build date. Ours was assembled in California in Oct of 15. Maybe the frames came off the same line with the error overlooked for some time. I say this because one of the pictures Lippert wanted was one of the build date sticker.
I'm inclined to agree with you as this is our problem too.

Thanks for your response.
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Ours was built at the Rialto, CA plant in February 2016.

Until Forest River reopened the Hemet, CA plant this year Rialto built all the Sandstorm, Stealth and Shockwave lines.

I was told the frame could have been "bumped" at the assembly plant and knocked out of alignment. My suspicion is Lippert had their frame specs off when they welded the frames together for this particular model.

Hope it gets worked out for you too.
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