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08-18-2016, 08:04 PM
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2015 crusader electrical trouble
We have a 2015 crusader with the flood here in Louisiana we were forced to live in it so we had one of the family members make us a cord to plug the camper. We ran it from the dryer in the house which is 30 amp 240 volts well we turned on each breaker in the camper and heard a pop noise now the ice box and fire place which is on 2 separate slides won't come on. Is there a separate switch or reset button? We looked at the breaker panel and all is good the fuses are good as well. Pleas help as we are living in the camper thanks
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08-18-2016, 08:17 PM
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Nope, you just made a BIG mistake plugging into the 240v dryer outlet.
RVs use 30amp or 50amp 120v power, NOT 240v.
You probably fried the converter, microwave and a/c circuit boards.
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08-18-2016, 08:22 PM
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You have probably just put 240VAC across your RV components, which use 120VAC. I suspect you've smoked anything you turned on. See attached. Dryers use the 240VAC across the L1 and L2 connections. RV's use L1 and/or L2 to neutral (120VAC each). If you hooked them up wrong, you've smoked your components.
There are many threads on this issue.
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08-18-2016, 08:39 PM
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Everything works ac and microwave besides the ice box it has the amber light which is running on propane but it won't switch to electric
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08-18-2016, 09:23 PM
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You may have smoked the electric heating element. There are a couple fuses on the circuit board. I THINK one of them is related to the heating element. You may have blown that. The attached service manual may help you.
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08-19-2016, 05:08 AM
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If your camper is 50 amp supply, then hooking up to 30 amp 120/240 volts dryer plug is OK if the extension cord is wired properly. By your description it seems that one of the hot lead got hook up to the neutral instead. This would supply 240 volts to some appliances and then 120 volts to some appliances depending on which side of the trailer breaker panel these are hook up. Check your extension cord first.......
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08-19-2016, 05:39 AM
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Your fault was not in using dryer outlet. A 50amp rv plug is in fact 2 120 legs out of phase (a 220 plug)
I see a lot of bad electrical advise on here, it's gonna get someone hurt someday.
So, let's troubleshoot...
Let's start with breakers inside. One can look fine and be tripped. So flip them off then back on again one by one.
Also look for a tripped GFCI outlet somewhere in the coach. You will find sometimes the fridge is daisy chained off a coach outlet which will be GFCI.
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08-19-2016, 05:41 AM
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Also, good luck my friend. I can't fathom my house flooding and having to run for it. All my best to you.
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08-19-2016, 06:07 AM
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Cody, I have an extremely bad feeling about a lot of this...but we need more information to properly help you. Not knowing your electrical expertise, I'm going to try and make it in simple terms.
1. Is your Crusader wired for a 120 volt 30 amp RV service, or a 120/240 volt split phase 50 amp service. The easy way to answer this one is to look at the power cord that came with the trailer (and nothing your family has wired up or any adapter whatsoever attached to the power cord). Look at the end of the RV cord that would normally plug into a campground pedestal. Does it have 3 prongs on the cord, or 4 prongs? I am assuming it's 4 prongs (but want to absolutely make sure). If you have camped with the RV, you probably already know which outlet you use at the campgrounds too.
2. Your relatives dryer outlet,(not any adapter made, but the actual dryer outlet itself), does it have a place to plug in 3 prongs or 4 prongs from a power cord.
Does it perhaps look like this:
or maybe this;
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08-19-2016, 06:17 AM
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Crusader is a 5th wheel 50 amp isn't it?
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08-19-2016, 07:39 AM
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One thing to keep in mind here is that there are two different 'dryer' plugs. A 3-wire and a 4-wire. It could be either depending on whether the house was built before or after 1996. The issue in giving advise either way at this point, is that we don't have a clue which type plug the RV was plugged into.
Once we know if it's a 3 or 4-wire plug we can give much better advice. We also need to know whether the RV is 30 amp or 50 amp. (according to the Primetime website it should be a 50 amp)
Let us know these things and we'll be glad to help get this straightened out for you.
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08-19-2016, 02:26 PM
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Curious to how this turns out.
Good luck Cody.
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08-19-2016, 02:47 PM
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There is a small fuse in the bottom access panel for the fridge. It supplies 110 to the board and is a 3 amp little glass fuse in an inline fuse holder
Check that for the fridge. I did the 12 volt cooling fan modification a couple years ago. Shorted a wire in the process, this fuse blew. When that happened the frigged did not work. Changed the fuse and all was good.
Very simple to find and check, if your lucky that it that is the problem here. Next question would be why did it blow however.
Good luck
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08-20-2016, 09:35 AM
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Cody I hope things ars getting better fir you. I have a good friend in Livingston Parish that is fighting the flood.
Regarding your power issue I would unplug and not reconnect until your are positive it is correct. The important question now is if the dryer outlet is for 3 prong or 4. You need 4 for 50 amp RV service. You MUST have a neutral wire and a 3 wire dryer circuit does contain a neutral.
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