Crusader 335bhs or Sabre 34tbok-6?

iowarvnewbie · 05-14-2013, 09:57 PM

We are planning to trade our travel trailer for a new fifth wheel and are struggling with the decision of a crusader 335 BHS or a sabre 34tbok-6 We don't want to go too big and we want space for everyone. How tall is the Sabre does anyone know?? No info on manufacturers website. The length is different everywhere we look too. Anyone with good info for us about these two campers, please let me know. Forgot to add we have a Chevrolet 3500HD 6.0liter gas engine to tow with. And do we need a slider hitch with a 6.5 foot box?

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 12:38 PM

I vote the 36qbok !
looked at one at cheyenne camping center in walcott Iowa

youll get many answers about the slider.

I plainly vote yes !

height should be about 12' 6" but I will get an answer for sure.

TURBS

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 01:22 PM

This is the one at Cheyenne

AquaMan · 05-15-2013, 01:36 PM

Wouldn't consider either with the 6.0L engine. Would be OK if you were moving it from the dealer to a permanent site, but not for travel. Not even sure if the 6.0L is even rated for that much of a trailer.

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ttrost65

Wouldn't consider either with the 6.0L engine. Would be OK if you were moving it from the dealer to a permanent site, but not for travel. Not even sure if the 6.0L is even rated for that much of a trailer.

That would definitely be a duramax / Allison combo.
I totally missed the 6.0

**ependydad** · 05-15-2013, 02:08 PM

iowarvnewbie - you originally had 34qbok and then it looks like you changed to 34tbok. There is a 36QBOK-7 which is bigger than the 34TBOK-6. Since you updated your post to show the 34tbok, I changed your thread title to reflect that.

I think you really mean the smaller one since you made a mention of not wanting to go too big and it most closely matches the Crusader 355BHS.

f1100turbo - that means your vote still counts, just different camper. It's now the same as yours.

I'm partial to the Sabres, but it's largely because it's what I own. We didn't like the awning positioning on the matching camper from Primetime - it literally killed the whole camper for us. They even went as far as prototyping a u-shaped dinette just for us to prove it could be done. They just couldn't move the awning back and I felt it was too far forward to be usable.

**ependydad** · 05-15-2013, 02:09 PM

btw, my 36qbok (again, bigger than the 34tbok) is 13' 3" with the second A/C.

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ependydad

btw, my 36qbok (again, bigger than the 34tbok) is 13' 3" with the second A/C.

One a/c is 13' 2" according to the factory.
No units at factory right now have second a/c installed.

Turbs

**ependydad** · 05-15-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by f1100turbo

One a/c is 13' 2" according to the factory.
No units at factory right now have second a/c installed.

I really need to get out and measure that to find out where I really am at!

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ependydad

I really need to get out and measure that to find out where I really am at!

Yep!

Want me to measure the one at Cheyenne tonight when I pick mine up !

iowarvnewbie · 05-15-2013, 02:21 PM

I know that a gas engine isn't the best for towing, but figured that since the Crusader is under 10,000 lbs it would be workable. but I am not sure on the Sabre weight.

I appreciate the great info though, and now I am wondering even more what to do!

We have had no problems at all with the travel trailer loaded down with lots of stuff and water etc. We started with a 1500 pickup (which struggled a lot!!0 and then immediately moved to the 3500, and it has done great with it. Can barely tell it is there. The info says the Crusader is about 1000 lbs heavier than the travel trailer, so thought it should still do a great job with it.

So many details to pay attention to with these things. We do love camping though and we want to pick what is going to do the job best for us.

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 02:35 PM

The tbok is a 1000 lbs lighter almost 2000lbs but the pin weight is a 100 lbs more then 36qbok

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 02:37 PM

1,923 lbs.*pin
10,215 lbs.*uvw
13,923 lbs.*gvwr
3,658 lbs.*cargo capacity
40' ft

Tbok

EXGMTech · 05-15-2013, 08:15 PM

Best thing to do is go through both of them and see the diff. I don't think your truck will have a problem towing but you WILL go through ALOT of gas!

AquaMan · 05-15-2013, 08:28 PM

I've towed a 7500lb TT with an 06' 6.0L with 4:10 gears, and it was all it wanted to do to pull at highway speeds. It was a high profile TT, but not nearly as high as a 5er. Even with the Crusader at under 10k dry weight, wet weight will be more like 11-12k. Even though the truck can easily handle the weight, I'm not sure the motor can. I was greatly disappointed in the performance of my 6.0L.

iowarvnewbie · 05-15-2013, 08:36 PM

I see that you have the 335BHS EXGMTech. We are unable to find either model that we are looking at in person anywhere close to us. You don't have to answer these questions but if you would it would be helpful. Our dealer has one coming off the line at the plant on the 4th of June. We won't be able to see it for a few days after. We were sold on this model over everything until we saw the sabre online. Found out today that our dealer that we like and prefer does not sell the Sabre. So on the Crusader is there room in the master bedroom to change your clothes etc. if you want to? Is the floor flush or step up in there? Is there a tv mount or do you have to put it in yourself in there? Can you hook up the tv outside? Is there anything you don't like about that model? What are the best features? Thank you for your previous post!

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by iowarvnewbie

I see that you have the 335BHS. We are unable to find either model that we are looking at in person anywhere close to us. You don't have to answer these questions but if you would it would be helpful. Our dealer has one coming off the line at the plant on the 4th of June. We won't be able to see it for a few days after. We were sold on this model over everything until we saw the sabre online. Found out today that our dealer that we like and prefer does not sell the Sabre. So on the Crusader is there room in the master bedroom to change your clothes etc. if you want to? Is the floor flush or step up in there? Is there a tv mount or do you have to put it in yourself in there? Can you hook up the tv outside? Is there anything you don't like about that model? What are the best features? Thank you for your previous post!

Where do u live?

iowarvnewbie · 05-15-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by f1100turbo

Where do u live?

We live in the southwest corner of Iowa. Council Bluffs, Omaha, and Lincoln are close enough to us with work schedule. Nobody has either of these there. A few days after June 4th there will be a 2014 335BHS. Not sure on dates for the Sabre. Only one dealer in the area carries that one.

TURBS · 05-15-2013, 09:03 PM

http://www.cheyennecampingcenter.com...SB34TBOK_value

Cheyenne has them and there not to far from sw Iowa.

I bet the price is attractive to !

iowarvnewbie · 05-15-2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by f1100turbo

Sabre 34TBOK-6 5th Wheel by Palomino

Cheyenne has them and there not far.

I bet the price is attractive to !

Thanks! I actually had looked at those pics online, but hadn't looked to see where they were. A little over four hours from us, so not too bad on a weekend after school gets out.

Really like how helpful everyone is on here! Wish I would have thought of posting on here three weeks ago when we started looking.

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