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Old 01-21-2018, 09:11 PM   #1
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Looking for information about Prime time Crusader 5th wheel. We are looking at getting a 2012 bunkhouse model to use as most time "beach house", bayou actually, and occasional tow some place. If I get it the price will be real good, bank repo. I've looked it over a couple of times and it appears solid. No leaks or delamination evident. Floors solid but I'll check more thourghly. But haven't been able to check out the systems. Fellow I know has it stored at his lot for the CU and has winterized it for me. Before I'm obligated financially I can take to get checked out and since I have a pole barn with 50amp full hookups, that seems to be ideal place.

The air conditioner, single 15K unit on the roof is ducted with no ceiling plate. Prime time literature calls it "quiet" but manufacturers claims are dubious at best. In truth how noisy and effective is the air? The trailer has only one a/c so we'll likely add a second. Hopefully it will also tie into the ducting but not sure at this point. Dometic 8 cuft refer that smells a bit musty and somewhat rusty shelves from not used and closed up. Figure we can refinish them if the refer works.

Basically at the price we can get it we can afford to replace most of the appliances and come out ahead, but hopefully everything works. Girlfriend plans to paint the walls to cover the crappy wall paper, possibly paint white the cabinets, and later replace the bunk room carpet with sheet vinyl. Other furnishings may get replaced too, i.e. dining booth, couch. Almost guaranteed that the queen bed will get a new mattress. We both like a good night's sleep.

So for Crusader owners or others with direct knowledge, how is the build quality? What red flags should I look for that are unique to Prime time and Crusader? Appreciate any and all info good and bad that can be provided.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:41 PM   #2
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Greetings chunker21 and welcome to the forum.

Suggest you look over the Prime Time section of the forum. Prime Time does make halfway decent units. Like any other unit mfg today they can and will have issues.

Best advise would be to go over every inch with a fine tooth comb from roof to underside.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:50 PM   #3
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Check for wear under the slide bottoms - the quiet AC is definitely less noisy than the other styles that have the dump style units in the living area - our Crusader is much quieter....you are able to talk and watch television at normal levels

Adding a second air could be ducted into the same system - ours is more than adequate with only one AC here in Ohio at our seasonal site but a second air could be useful in hot climates

One issue if unit has the dark brown front cap is fading due to bad gel coat during manufacture - not sure if 2012 had that issue - only solution is proper repaint - no amount of buff/wax/polish/coating will last ....no matter what anyone has tried it will wear off eventually

Good luck with your shopping - hope this helps
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Thanks for the comments so far. It is the 355BHQ with a white front cap. Decals are slightly curling on the edges with the color still good but I'm not surprised about that here in the south east. A second air will almost surely be needed as the trailer will spend a good bit of time in NW FL on a bayou. It'll probably be a couple weeks before we get the chance to hook it up and get everything powered. After we go through it with that very fine toothed comb we likely will take it to an independent RV repair I trust to give estimates for any repairs and have them check things also.
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:50 PM   #5
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My ac has a hard time keeping up when temps exceed the mid 90's. I do not have a second ac but I am wired for one in the bedroom vent area. I don't believe it would be a ducted unit though. The 15k ac is very quiet compared to my previous TT. I've owned mine since Nov 2010. A couple minor problems. Hasn't been to a dealer since the warranty expired. Most significant was a leaky window gasket that cause a little delam....all fixed under warranty.
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Old 01-22-2018, 07:14 PM   #6
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We have a 2016 Crusader and our AC is loud. Actually I think it is the fan or the air intake vents. If we are watching TV we have to turn the volume up. We only have one AC. We took a trip out west and been some hot days. We keep the AC on 24/7 when it is hot. Have the fan on low at night and high during the day. We also covered windows with insulation with shiny material and worked great.
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Overall the Crusader is pretty good. We have taken it to North Fort Myers twice and planning to go back shortly. We took it cross country for 11 weeks and had no issues. In roughly 2.5 years we put 13,000+ miles on it. Had one stock tire blowout luckily no damage.
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Old 01-23-2018, 09:39 AM   #8
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My current coach has a basement air but I have had trailers in the past with roof airs that had various levels of noise. Most motorhomes now have roof airs and we have been in some that were very noisy. Unfortunately I didn't pay attention to brand. I do recall, think it was Coleman, that a recent version had a lot of noise complaints and one solution was to change the fan which helped. Not sure if is was as simple as different number of blades or a re-design. Something I read on one of the RV forums.
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Look here for what to go over with a used RV: Tips for buying used

The AC is a little loud. Less than a direct vent, but I have not heard a quiet RV air conditioner. You won't hear much of the A/C in the main bedroom. not much air, either. Don't let the unit decide the fan speed. Set it to medium or high and leave it. This way, it circulates the air, so you get less hot spots.

Unless you always park in the shade, you will likely need a second A/C unit. If you get the companion 13.5K unit, it should tie directly into the existing venting system.

We've had our Crusader for about 18 months, although a different model, and we really like it. We've only had some minor issues (so far).

Just check it out fully and you shouldn't have many surprises.

Lastly, you can use mobile RV repair services to inspect the RV for you. They come to you.
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There are companies that perform PDI inspections if you're not confident in your abilities to properly inspect the rig.

Overall if there's no delamination, no torn darco wrap on the slides, the roof is solid with no cracks in the sealant, you should be ok, check every cabinet in hard to reach areas as this is usually where you will find water coming in, torn underbelly, good tires. Overall RV's are not complex vehicles as many seem to think they are it's not a hard inspection if you take your time & poke around.

Most expensive appliances are RV gas/electric fridge (the BIG one) must make sure this works, AC units, Auto-leveling, water heater and furnace.

Items like TV's super cheap not a deal breaker
RV Microwave super cheap not a deal breaker (just replaced mine only $99 bucks for the same exact unit) replaced it myself.
Bedding a personal preference as RV beds usually are quite bad
RV toilet is not an expensive item either

If your getting a good deal then small items can be negotiated into the price.
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