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Old 11-28-2013, 08:27 PM   #1
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Finally Went Camping, A serious issue. Help

It has been a long time since I have been on the forum because we have not been able to camp for a while. Well not camping means the 318BHS is sitting on the storage pad all closed up.
We have an annual tradition of camping on Thanksgiving week so we were excited about dusting it off and using it.
But as with most things that sit for over 6 months without use, that is when some problems crop up.
#1 - there was standing water in the "in floor" storage bin in the rear bunkhouse. We opened it up to discover a moldy mess with about 2" of standing water. So the water has been there a while. I have no clue how this would even be remotely possible. Our first day camping was rainy, so we cleaned it all out, after the rain there was a couple of cups of water in it.
Has anyone else had this issue?
#2 - While connected to the city water source, our fresh water tank is filling up. My guess here is that water is back flowing thru the water pump into the fresh tank. I think this is an easy fix. I cycled the pump a few times but it is still leaking in.
#3 - It is cold where we are camping, down into the lower 20's high teens at night. There is excessive sweating in the corners which would indicate poor sealing in the corners allowing cold to infiltrate in. Is anyone else experiencing this?
#4 - The gas lines connecting the tanks to the trailer leak like a sieve. I soaped them up and every crimp connection leaks. Has anyone experienced this?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. We will be taking it to our dealer Monday after we get back, but I would like to know if these are common issues or I am the unlucky one who got these problems. I have already had serious floor issues, but prime time stepped up and fixed those.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 12-01-2013, 05:54 PM   #2
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It has been a long time since I have been on the forum because we have not been able to camp for a while. Well not camping means the 318BHS is sitting on the storage pad all closed up.
We have an annual tradition of camping on Thanksgiving week so we were excited about dusting it off and using it.
But as with most things that sit for over 6 months without use, that is when some problems crop up.
#1 - there was standing water in the "in floor" storage bin in the rear bunkhouse. We opened it up to discover a moldy mess with about 2" of standing water. So the water has been there a while. I have no clue how this would even be remotely possible. Our first day camping was rainy, so we cleaned it all out, after the rain there was a couple of cups of water in it.
Has anyone else had this issue?
#2 - While connected to the city water source, our fresh water tank is filling up. My guess here is that water is back flowing thru the water pump into the fresh tank. I think this is an easy fix. I cycled the pump a few times but it is still leaking in.
#3 - It is cold where we are camping, down into the lower 20's high teens at night. There is excessive sweating in the corners which would indicate poor sealing in the corners allowing cold to infiltrate in. Is anyone else experiencing this?
#4 - The gas lines connecting the tanks to the trailer leak like a sieve. I soaped them up and every crimp connection leaks. Has anyone experienced this?

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. We will be taking it to our dealer Monday after we get back, but I would like to know if these are common issues or I am the unlucky one who got these problems. I have already had serious floor issues, but prime time stepped up and fixed those.

Thanks in advance.


#1 - Is the carpet wet in any area leading from the toy well to a wall or slide?

#2 - Does sound like the pump is leaking back. Could be excessive pressure from the "city source" causing blow by. Maybe getting a good quality pressure regulator will help.

#3 - No avoiding the sweating at those temps. That is normal. "Cracking" a window to let out some of the moist humid air might help a little.

#4 - Sounds like cold weather shrinkage between the rubber and mettle crimps. Replacing the lines seems in order here.

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Old 12-01-2013, 07:51 PM   #3
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#1 - Is the carpet wet in any area leading from the toy well to a wall or slide?

#2 - Does sound like the pump is leaking back. Could be excessive pressure from the "city source" causing blow by. Maybe getting a good quality pressure regulator will help.

#3 - No avoiding the sweating at those temps. That is normal. "Cracking" a window to let out some of the moist humid air might help a little.

#4 - Sounds like cold weather shrinkage between the rubber and mettle crimps. Replacing the lines seems in order here.

#1 - That is what is really strange, neither the carpet, or the wall is wet. The carpet looks puckered between the wall and the bin, but that is a narrow area and I think it has always been that way. If water is leaking around the window, could it migrate down the wall, on the bottom side of the floor and get in it that way, it is real strange. Maybe someone from prime time can weigh in here. We are expecting rain, so I am going to watch it and see where it is coming in.

#2 - I always use a quaility pressure regulator to prevent blow outs in the system. I could not hear anything, the only reason I realized it was water began over flowing out of the fill hole and dripping on the ground.

#3 - I get the sweating, but in the corners kind of bothers me, it indicates poor sealing between the panels at the corners, nothing I cant live with, but it does bother me that moisture may be forming in the wall.

#4 - I never knew that gas lines shrink in cold weather, I guess once they shrink thay dont go back. No biggie replacing them.

Thanks for the info. It is the leak that has me bugged more than anything.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:51 PM   #4
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Hi, do you remember if it was raining when you put the slides in, if so the roof of the slide holds lots of water. A slide topper will solve that issue if that is what occurred.

You can place a small hole In the interior wall and fill the area where the sweating is occurring and spray some of that foam insulation in between the inner and outer wall. It is very light and seals up and insulates everything. Lowes or home depot sell it cheap.. good luck
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It was dry when it went up. It occurred with the slides closed.
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We've camped in VERY cold temps (as low as -5F) and have not had any leaking of our LP connections. I wouldn't be messing with any leaks. Replace hoses if need be.

Is your rig still under warranty? If so see your dealer about your issues right away.
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1 - I would definitely expect a leak - time to check the caulk everywhere near it. Could it be related to the back flow issue from the city connection? Did your FW tank over flow?
2 - I believe the check valve is located at or in the water pump. Reducing pressure is a good idea but the pump may need replacement. Could be there is some dirt or construction debris in the valve so I'd recommend inspecting it.
3-Sweating is condensation. It does not indicate an air leak (but if there is one, there is your water leak too I'd bet). I would expect the corners have less insulation, therefore a colder area (like the window panes) and you will get moisture. We get it in the bedroom closets. For a really long term camp out, a dehumidifier would be an idea.
4-Never had a hose fail, but sounds like that one was built by the new guy on the assembly line. It happens. Good you found it.
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Old 12-03-2013, 11:51 AM   #8
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1 - I would definitely expect a leak - time to check the caulk everywhere near it. Could it be related to the back flow issue from the city connection? Did your FW tank over flow?
2 - I believe the check valve is located at or in the water pump. Reducing pressure is a good idea but the pump may need replacement. Could be there is some dirt or construction debris in the valve so I'd recommend inspecting it.
3-Sweating is condensation. It does not indicate an air leak (but if there is one, there is your water leak too I'd bet). I would expect the corners have less insulation, therefore a colder area (like the window panes) and you will get moisture. We get it in the bedroom closets. For a really long term camp out, a dehumidifier would be an idea.
4-Never had a hose fail, but sounds like that one was built by the new guy on the assembly line. It happens. Good you found it.
The FW tank did overflow. I never hook up any water source without a regulator. With that being said, I am sure it is the backflow check valve leaking.

The rain water leak issue is unrelated to the sweating and condensation, it occurred during warmer weather while the unit was in storage, with the slides shut and the HVAC off.

The trailer is 2 years old and well taken care of and stored properly, albeit not covered. We are expecting rain and I am going to monitor the leak situation while we are waiting to get it to the dealer.
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Old 12-03-2013, 03:49 PM   #9
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Are you sure your fresh water tank and city connection are labeled correctly? There should be no tank connected to the city water connection. If you connected the city water to the FW tank, then most likely the tank is over filled and found a place to drain itself. If the water comes from above, you'll notice it on the walls and ceiling(staining). Check your local Big Box for a moisture meter used by home inspectors.
That's a lot of water and I do not believe that condensation is your issue. All I can say is HMMM? Good Luck with that!
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Since the water system piping is shared by the both the city water connection and the pump for the holding tank water, they connect somewhere. I really think the FW tank filling is check valve issue. Since the water got in the bin during storage with nothing connected, it has to be a leak from rain water.

I was hoping someone else on the forum had water in their "in floor" storage so I, at least, would not be alone in this deal
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