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Old 05-04-2014, 10:14 PM   #11
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.... They are synchronized and both need to work. How do you know they are both working? I did read that if you remove power from the slide (total power) that with a couple people, one can move the slide. ....
I read the Manual and it explained how you can enable Motor 1, Motor 2, or both Motors in the Manual Mode. That's what I did. Motor 1 ran and moved the slide. Motor 2 tried to run, based on the noise, but couldn't move the slide.

It takes more than just removing all the power to manually push the slide in. You need to access the motors from outside to remove their securing screws. Then you reach past the wiper seals and push each motor up about 1/2" to disengage the gear drive. THEN you can push the slide closed and use a wood block (sized to wedge between the wall and the flange of the slide.

I'm hoping there's a backup method for disengaging the motors when the slideout is stuck in CLOSED position.

I'll be phoning Lippert tomorrow to discuss.

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Old 05-04-2014, 10:17 PM   #12
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Lacrosse 301RLS slideout failure

Good luck, been there and done that. My dealers solution was to look for how to videos on the Lippert website, sounds like you have done that.
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Old 05-04-2014, 10:21 PM   #13
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We had the same issue several times in our 2012 Wildcat 312. I finally discovered that the connector between the motor and the sync unit comes loose easily. .... Before tampering with the motor, unplug the wires from the sync unit. After checking the connections, plug the wires back in to the sync unit. ...
Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.

My unit has a few loops of cable before plugging in to the controller, so it shouldn't get any load at the plug when operating.

Disappointed to hear you had so many motor failures.

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Old 05-04-2014, 10:24 PM   #14
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Not true--brut force with the power totally off is an option. As long as there is any power to the unit, it applies a "break" to the motors.
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Old 05-05-2014, 02:50 PM   #15
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Not true--brut force with the power totally off is an option. As long as there is any power to the unit, it applies a "break" to the motors.
Interesting. How do you define "brute force"? 1 big guy, 2 small guys, 4-ton hydraulic jack, etc?

I tried really hard to push the "stuck" side while the motors were energised, but absolutely no movement. Would this suggest to you that one of my motors has seized solid so that it cannot rotate at all?

I've been on hold for ages with Lippert Cust Service - hope to get some help soon

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Old 05-05-2014, 03:35 PM   #16
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I assume he meant the motor has to have no power to it. If there is power to the motor, it would have the electric brake he is mentioning. Cut the trailer power and see if you can push it in.

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Old 05-05-2014, 03:43 PM   #17
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Thanks Robert! If there is any power to the unit (battery, truck, or shore power), it engages the breaks to the electrical motors--this keeps the slides from shaking out while traveling. You need 2 men with a little ass to uniformly push the slide out at the same time. These Lippert Schwinteck slides are really precise fitting and trying to move one side jambs the slide. It has to be even and the power (total power to the camper) needs to be OFF. Disconnect the positive side of the battery and unplug from the 110 shore power source.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:44 PM   #18
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Lippert eventually answered the phone and were very helpful. The Tech agreed with my troubleshooting steps EXCEPT he says I should have held the "Extend" button until the controller shut down when Motor 1 would have stalled out. That explains why I got no error codes - I prematurely stopped trying to open it to prevent damage but the controller does that, and then displays the Error Code.

From the description of my tests, he says Motor 2 has failed, probably in the gearbox, and is jammed. It needs replacing BUT it can only be done from the outside so disassembly of the slideout flange is needed. I've now got a call in to PT to see if they made provision for this.

Re Brute Force: Tech says that a full grown rhino couldn't move the slideout without disengaging the motor on systems built after "2010 or 2011". Mine was built in Feb 2012 (purchased Aug '12).

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Slide out flange does not need to be disassembles if the slide is open, one only needs to remove the seal (move down to release screw.
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His slide is closed.
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