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Old 10-10-2015, 09:52 AM   #11
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I was told during my PDI that you should never back in and drop the legs and hit the button to lift the 5er off the hitch. I was told to always extend the front legs by 3 to 6 inches then drop the legs and lift it off of the hitch. That gives the front some up and down adjustment otherwise the rear has to adjust to the level to the front jacks height.

Side to side I was told that one sides wheels could come off the ground during leveling and that wasn't a problem and did confirm that though LCI. I don't like to see it and I will normally lift a inch and more and slid some blocks under the tires.

What I do like is being able to push two buttons and returns to last hitch level and i don't have to mess getting just right height.

I was also told that mine were electric and I could store them down and take some weight off the tires and would help with tire life and flat spots. I was also told I lift it one side at time the tires 90 degrees while in extended winter storage.

I never had to reset mine and works perfect.
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:03 AM   #12
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Here is a extreme front to back level and the wheels are still on the ground. The front jacks were close to fully extended when I took it off the TV and I put 3 lego blocks under the rear.
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Old 10-10-2015, 10:11 AM   #13
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Here is a extreme front to back level and the wheels are still on the ground. The front jacks were close to fully extended when I took it off the TV and I put 3 lego blocks under the rear.
I agree... the front jacks have to be let out fairly far so the front of the unit drops significantly after unhitching. I haven't had the tires lift off the ground, nor used any 'levelers' under the tires for quite some time. I can't imagine going to another unit and not having automatic levelers now. Once you have it re-calibrated, just keep working with it!
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I agree... the front jacks have to be let out fairly far so the front of the unit drops significantly after unhitching. I haven't had the tires lift off the ground, nor used any 'levelers' under the tires for quite some time. I can't imagine going to another unit and not having automatic levelers now. Once you have it re-calibrated, just keep working with it!
I agree with you but a couple times that one sides wheels lifted off the ground by as much a inch or two. I know it's fine and it not going to hurt anything but I just don't like it.
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Old 10-10-2015, 12:09 PM   #15
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I have the 4 point lippert ground control leveling system and every time I use it it lifts the wheels off the ground. I am considering using the manual mode and getting the unit level and reseting the system. The manual says to turn the system off and push the front button 10 times and then the rear button 10 times manually level the unit and press enter to finish. Has anybody done this reset and was it successful? Does the system have a level sensor in the controller and memorizes the new level condition or does it base it's level condition on the extension point of the legs?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Check on your sequence........to recalabrate, I always manually level the unit FIRST. Then perform the calibration steps (following the on-screen prompts). I use a long level on the floor at the entry door or kitchen counter when manually leveling.

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Old 10-29-2015, 10:56 PM   #16
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We have almost completed a 2500 mile trip to Pigeon Forge, Williamsburg, Jamestown and Washington D.C. in our 2014 Crusader. (Our first long distance trip in this unit) The Ground Control Leveling System has been cycled 6 times on the trip. It has operated satisfactorily until this morning at Pigeon Forge. I connected the trailer to my truck , then retracted the front legs until the motors stopped. The left leg was max up but I noticed the right leg was about three inches from up. When I touched it, it fell to the ground. I wound up removing the two bolts clamping the unit to the trailer and raising it up high enough for the inner strut/leg to fall out so we could pull it home. The jack screw appears to have broken where it attaches to the drive gear but I'll have to further disassemble when I get home to know for sure. Can you imagine what would have happened if it had waited until we were on the highway and then dropped to the pavement with the pad on it at 70 mph? I would guess the legs have less than 50 total operating cycles on them.
Has anyone experienced anything like this?
Other issues during the trip have been: light fixture in bedroom, switch has welded itself closed so bulbs had to be removed, seal on shower door has failed allowing water to leak on floor, shower enclosure is so thin that I bumped the lower soap dish area with my knee and put a crack in it large enough for water to leak into wall area, as well as black plastic material on both large slides wearing away. Electric water heater
also works intermittently.
It's a shame how lousy they are built considering how much they cost!
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Old 10-31-2015, 10:27 PM   #17
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[QUOTE=rrickett;1023466]We have almost completed a 2500 mile trip to Pigeon Forge, Williamsburg, Jamestown and Washington D.C. in our 2014 Crusader. (Our first long distance trip in this unit) The Ground Control Leveling System has been cycled 6 times on the trip. It has operated satisfactorily until this morning at Pigeon Forge. I connected the trailer to my truck , then retracted the front legs until the motors stopped. The left leg was max up but I noticed the right leg was about three inches from up. When I touched it, it fell to the ground. I wound up removing the two bolts clamping the unit to the trailer and raising it up high enough for the inner strut/leg to fall out so we could pull it home. The jack screw appears to have broken where it attaches to the drive gear but I'll have to further disassemble when I get home to know for sure. Can you imagine what would have happened if it had waited until we were on the highway and then dropped to the pavement with the pad on it at 70 mph? I would guess the legs have less than 50 total operating cycles on them.
Has anyone experienced anything like this?
Other issues during the trip have been: light fixture in bedroom, switch has welded itself closed so bulbs had to be removed, seal on shower door has failed allowing water to leak on floor, shower enclosure is so thin that I bumped the lower soap dish area with my knee and put a crack in it large enough for water to leak into wall area, as well as black plastic material on both large slides wearing away. Electric water heater
also works intermittently.
It's a shame how lousy they are built considering how much they cost!
We bought the unit from a couple who had used it three times and decided to buy a motor home and sell it. Since it was used I have no warranty and Dealer/Prime Time won't take any responsibility for anything.
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Old 11-02-2015, 11:54 AM   #18
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Update on the failed Lippert Ground Control System leg.
We made it home safely, but Rv is still attached to TV. Disassembled drive unit and found sheared 7/32" drive pin on jack screw. Called Lippert and after explaining situation to Tech Support Engineer, and even though we bought the RV used with no warranty, he agreed to ship me a new leg assembly no cost. There are still some decent folks out there. Thanks Lippert!
Now if we could just get Prime Time to admit they have an issue with the slide roller surfaces underneath wearing excessively and do a recall on all of them.
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:16 PM   #19
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We are looking at the ground control system for our 8258RKWS. On my last trailer we had a Lippert Level up 6 keg hydraulic. On for the first systems they sold with the controls on a chord and no auto level. I had stick on levels on front and side of 5th wheel. It was no trouble at all to level the 39 ft 14000 lb trailer. I personally really liked the manual leveling as there were no issues and I did not have to worry where the remote was as it was always attached. Insert the key and push the button up or down.
Sometimes less complicated is better with less to go wrong.
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