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Old 06-27-2011, 11:13 PM   #31
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I have my F250 6.7 Turbo Diesel since October 2010 and have 13,000 Miles on it. It is flat out the best truck I have ever owned (10 total). Towing mileage at 65 mph and hilly terrain is 12 mpg and 14 mpg at 55 and flat terrain. 17 to 20 mpg not towing. DEF is no big expense. 800 ft lbs of torque makes you forget that a 10000 lb trailer is back there.
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:29 AM   #32
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Choose FORD..!! The only truck maker not operating on our tax dollars....!
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:09 AM   #33
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I totally agree with you on that one. I drive an f150 myself and have made that statement myself. I am just going from experience with our company and we have had the best luck with the dodge diesels ever since ford switched from the 7.3.
As far as the rear axel ratings, I don't know what they are now and never did know what they were on a 2500, I just know that a couple of years ago chevy 3500's were 1,000lbs less than dodge and ford. I know if you go to the chevy web site and look at the vehicle comparison that they post for chevy, dodge, and ford, they even show dodge with a 1,000lbs and ford with an 800lbs higher gross vehicle capacity. I don't know what the rear axel rating is though.
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:41 AM   #34
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7.3 was a great Ford Diesel!!! Can't argue
Ford and tax dollar avoidance at all, that is a good point!
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:46 AM   #35
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Just be aware that some of them are starting to blow up. Something to do with over-fueling one cylinder, washing it down, and destroying the block.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:07 AM   #36
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When I bought my truck, I had a choice between Gas and Diesel (used from the same location). I test drove both. then I looked around my local gas stations and finally I went and talked to my mechanic about both trucks and repair costs.

After doing all 3, I ended up with a a GMC Sierra gas 8.1L
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I would like some info on the problems with the 6.7? Both the GM and Ford must use the DEF now, but Dodge will use it next year to meet the EPA rules, read this in Trailer Life. While i have not had the new 250 very long, it sure seems solid and I don't know that I am towing a 30 FW back there!
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After doing all 3, I ended up with a a GMC Sierra gas 8.1L

494 cubic inches of gas guzzling raw power
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494 cubic inches of gas guzzling raw power

Its not too bad, I get about 5 gallons per mile

Actually, highway towing is about 7 @65, not towing highway is about 11.5, city is about 8 to 9.

I am just a weekend warrior, so that was a HUGE reason not to go with diesel, plus the nearest station to my house is about a 20 minute drive...odd...
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For most people - the difference in fuel and maintenance costs (higher with diesel) vs. the longevity (again higher with diesel) are a wash at best. For a lot of heavy towing, then diesel will always win.

As for the Big 3...if you are looking brand new then you will see very little difference in power, MPG or price per option. They are too close to call. As for maintenance costs and warranty claims, the Dodge is the winner. I wish I had one, but used they are too expensive so I bought a Ford. The Cummins engine is the best diesel engine available in a sub Class-6 truck period. The transmission are a toss up, an Allison will wear out just as soon as an Aisin with similar power (the difference most people build the Cummins for more power and blow the tranny.) Personally, I would rather have the Mercedes 6 speed available with the Cummins, it is rated for 40K lbs.

Ford has had real troubles with diesel engines ever since they dropped the 7.3. They went to International to build a better engine, and got what they paid for. Not one of the Big 3 can make a decent diesel engine. Chevy went to Isuzu and Dodge to Cummins.

For the weight you are talking, and given the higher maintenance costs of diesel, I would look at the Ford Eco-Boost engine. That really is the direction I think most makers will go, ie turbo and direct injection. Basically what makes diesel engines so much more efficient, but in a gas engine.
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