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Old 06-25-2011, 09:45 PM   #1
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Need new tow vehicle advice

Folks I am contemplating a new tow vehicle and am seeking some advice. We have a Ford F150 FX4 with the 5.4L motor which we really like, but we want to step up to the F250. We looked at one today that was outfitted with the 6.7L diesel, but I just am not to sure about having a diesel motor. I think I would prefer a gas motor but thought I would check here first. I have heard there have been some issues with the Ford diesels so that is one concern. The other concern I have is the 5.4L gas motor... Would that be undersized for the F250? Any thoughts or comments appreciated...
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Old 06-25-2011, 09:53 PM   #2
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Apparently the 6.7's are starting to have issues as well.
The new Ecoboost and heavy 1/2 ton they put it in seem to be getting rave reviews. Unbelievable torque and horsepower, and great tow ratings for a 1/2 ton.
I don't know how much your camper weighs, but I wouldn't be afraid to pull a camper with a 10,000 gvwr with the Ecoboost. Probably not much more though.
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:33 PM   #3
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The new F-250's also come with the new Ford 6.2L V8 gasser. I haven't heard anything about them, good or bad. Of course if you buy a used F-250 (2010 or older) the V10 is a very good motor.
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Please know this...I do not have a bias...infact thought about buying an Ecoboost...but if I were buying a diesel, it would be a Chevy/GMC with the Duramax/Allison transmission...Dodge has a good diesel engine but questionable transmission reliability. Ford has had issues dating back to the 6.o and before...some models you need to lift the entire cab to work on them....
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:43 PM   #5
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I vote for the Duramax/Allison too!
Have had our '07 Classic for 5 years, over 150,000 and going strong!
Fuel mileage sucks, but don't they all?LOL
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PS...my friend had one of the Fords with th 6.0, finally traded up to the Duramax!
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Old 06-25-2011, 10:57 PM   #6
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Please know this...I do not have a bias...infact thought about buying an Ecoboost...but if I were buying a diesel, it would be a Chevy/GMC with the Duramax/Allison transmission...Dodge has a good diesel engine but questionable transmission reliability. HUH??? The Dodge 68RFE automatic is every bit as good as the all mighty Allison and comes standard with a factory exhaust brake that is the strongest in the indstry factory installed.Ford has had issues dating back to the 6.o and before...some models you need to lift the entire cab to work on them.... Still do. However the reviews on the 6.7L diesel are so far very good. The downside is they require the addition of DEF about every 5-6K miles. So that adds a few cents a mile more to the cost.
For the OP there is no way I could suggest a diesel unless he is serious about upgrading in the future.
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I too would have to VOTE GMC/CHEVY with Dmax/Allison Combo. Probably the best truck I've owned + Engine/Tran Combo. Mine is a 07 Classic with the LBZ motor. Gas Mileage is OK, but boy does thing have power. I've since put a Straight through 4" Exhaust (No CAT No Muffler) and a Diablo Predator Programmer on the 60hp Tune. Dodge puts a good motor in their trucks but everything else is S(*&(t. I believe Dodge and GM use the same Rear Axle. Ford I'd just never own. Can't really comment on them.
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All 3 brands of trucks have pros and cons, as well as lemons. Dodge has the best diesel IMO...straight 6 is a diesel motor...but the others are good also. If u want something easy to work on later in it's life stay away from ford and GM...
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Of course if you buy a used F-250 (2010 or older) the V10 is a very good motor.
X2. If you've already decided you're sticking with a Ford gas engine, and you are upgrading to an F250, get the V10. I had an '07 F150 with the 5.4. Loved everything about the truck and never had the first problem with it, and it towed my previous TT beautifully. That TT weighed around 5500-6000 lbs fully loaded. Really did not want to get rid of the F150, but when we decided to upgrade to the Windjammer, I knew my F150 did not have the payload capacity to handle the much heavier tongue weight, even though I would still be well within it's tow rating.

Back in March, I looked at an '08 F250 with the 5.4 and 3.73 rear (the same as my F150) that had 38k miles, but decided if I was gonna upgrade, why upgrade to a truck with the same engine and rear as my current F150? I already knew how the combination performed towing my previous TT and since I was moving up to a TT that was 12' longer and 2k lbs heavier, I wanted more power than the 5.4 would give me. Less than a week later, I found an '08 F250 with a V10 and 4.10 with 32k miles, and I paid $3k less for the V10 than the advertised price of the F250 with the 5.4L.

When I was towing my previous TT that weighed 5500-6000, I was happy if I ever saw 10 MPG towing with my F150. Towing my Windjammer down to Va Beach yesterday, I got 9.1 MPG with my V10, not a big drop off, but boy is the power different!
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All 3 brands of trucks have pros and cons, as well as lemons. Dodge has the best diesel IMO...straight 6 is a diesel motor...but the others are good also. If u want something easy to work on later in it's life stay away from ford and GM...
Thats just so wrong bashing fords and gm that way I have owened all three and they all do the same if you take care of them. A person I know has towed travel trailers for a living has racked up well over a million miles on a Ford 7.3 2001 Dually and has never rebuilt anything on it. And it is still going strong he MAINTAINS it properly and never has changed it as far as CHIPS ETC.
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