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Old 04-27-2015, 12:35 AM   #1
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Hello all, I recently purchased a new Tracer Air 250 trailer (I pick it up on Wednesday). We love the unique floor plan and super light weight. My only concern with the trailer was the awefull couch. When you sit on it, it slopes forward and you basically slide out of it. Is this just the way these tri-fold units are? We won't ever be using it as a sleeping surface, so its annoying that I can't even sit on it. The back tilts back and the seat bottom tilts down when you sit on it. I really wish it was a jackknife sofa since they seem to stay in the proper sitting shape.

When I pick it up on Wednesday after the inspection and orientation, can I ask for it to be replaced/swapped out? The unit I bought is the only one on the lot of this model, so I did not have a chance to look at another one to see if its how they all are or not? The salesman suggested putting a 2x4 under the front of it, but if I'm buying a 24k trailer brand new, I don't think I should have to stick an ugly 2x4 under the front of the leather couch to fix what could be a manufacturer defect?

Also, I noticed that the queen bed does not have gas struts to lift it to access the under bed storage, and its freaking heavy. Is this something that can be added? The bottom bunk of the double bunks in the rear also does not even have a lift hold under the mattress to lift the plywood and access the storage underneath.
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:38 AM   #2
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We have a Tracer 255 with the Lane couch that pulls out to a queen bed and when its was set up as a couch it was great but when you turned it into a bed it did not lay flat.I had some other stuff that needed done and had them adjust it and now it works as it should and lays nice and flat.There is only me and the wife now so we asked about them switching it out for recliners and they said no but we are still thinking of doing it ourselves.

As for the struts our bed has 2 of them on there and it lifts no problem.If it were me I would tell them to fix these things or the deal is off but seeing that you already picked it up you can put the struts on yourself just use struts made to hold up the hatch on back of cars or take a look at another one with struts and get the part number and get them some place.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:33 AM   #3
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We don't pick it up till Wednesday, not sure if it should have gas struts as a factory installed option though. We looked at lots of other trailers and it was hit or miss. Although most non-entry level trailers had the struts and going by price alone, the tracer is not what I would consider entry level.

Is your sofa the tri fold type? I really liked the keystone Hideout model of couch that was two pieces, where the back folded over and down and became the legs. It was very comfortable as a couch and did not dump you on the floor.
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:00 PM   #4
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We've got a 2015 Tracer AIR 255. We hate our couch also. Doesn't come close to sitting comfortable, it's exactly as you say. Trying all sorts of things with it to modify it, not having a lot of luck. Eventually may try to replace with a jack-knife couch. Still experimenting. As for the struts, ours are 2 and are no problem to raise, just like Searay said. If you find a good answer to the couch, I'll be watching this post to see it.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:08 PM   #5
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We've got a 2015 Tracer AIR 255. We hate our couch also. Doesn't come close to sitting comfortable, it's exactly as you say. Trying all sorts of things with it to modify it, not having a lot of luck. Eventually may try to replace with a jack-knife couch. Still experimenting. As for the struts, ours are 2 and are no problem to raise, just like Searay said. If you find a good answer to the couch, I'll be watching this post to see it.
Crap, that's exactly what I didn't want to hear. I was hoping there was a mod, or some adjustment to make it workable. That's a good portion of the reason we chose this floor plan for the extra seating. If I can't even sit on the dang couch its really going to bother me. That, coupled with the lack of a ladder for the bunks and easily accessible under (rear) bed storage and I'm second guessing the whole endeavor.

We got lucky in that the dealer had a finance deal fall through on their other same model trailer. I went and looked at it, and it has the gas struts under the front bed, couch is less sloped and it didn't have the sloppy workmanship as the one we were slated to buy. Dealer said they will swap us no problem. I crawled in the front storage bay though, and noticed the aluminum framing is only welded on two sides, like spot welds? One of them even looked cracked. Has anyone had issues with this in the tracer line? I looked at a cougar x-lite line of trailers and its aluminum frame was welded on all sides of the square tubing. It was a few hundred pounds heavier but for better build quality.....?? Its not too late for me to unwind the deal, I haven't closed on the loan yet till I sign the final papers on Wednesday.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:11 PM   #6
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Had a jack-knife couch in our tracer and hated it. Real POS
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:39 PM   #7
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We had a jacknife sofa in our last TT. See if you or the dealer can take it out and put it back in. Out old TT arrived with two cuts on the seat fabric. The bottom had to be removed to replace it. When they re installed the bottom it didn't sit the same as when it was delivered from the factory and it had to be re-installed. You might be in luck. As for sleeping on it. Two small kids maybe ok. One adult - the thing doesn't lay flat enough and there's a bar down the middle because of the frame. The dog liked sleeping on though. 😉


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One thing we tried which helped, but still not good, is we took the hinges off the back of the couch upright and just put that down in the groove and put the cushion against it. It helps, but it still does not sit comfortably. With the slide-out not going to the floor, you can't just remove it and recliners. We are even considering buying a loveseat and cutting the bottom off of it and putting it there. Problem we have with buying a jackknife sofa (don't need the sleeping space) is finding one to sit on before buying. Can order, but want to try it first. Camping world has some in catalog but not in any showrooms. It was almost a show-stopper for us, but we loved everything else and figure sooner or later we will find a solution. Which I could help but we are still searching for an answer ourselves!!
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Old 04-28-2015, 01:17 PM   #9
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We had thought of trying that very same thing but if your results are not good we will be in the same boat. Love the layout, hate the couch. We are now thinking of bagging it entirely since final papers have not been signed yet, and ordering a Jayco x254 with the quad bunks up front and king slide out. They cost the same or slightly less but have a longer warranty (2 years) and weigh the same.....
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Yeah why is it they all seem to have horrible furniture and very hard items to get aftermarket. We got a nice Sofa Couch with our Roo but the dinette is like sitting on 3 sheets of plywood and 2x4's so uncomfortable


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