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Old 06-22-2012, 12:09 PM   #21
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The "in theory" statement is just me being cautious with my words. When you talk absolutes, there's always someone waiting for you with a surprise - particularly on a forum.

They make tanks that are bigger but there are lots of times that 1) you can't merge them so you would need two tanks anyway and 2) there are lots of floorplans where it would be difficult to put in a single tank that large.
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Old 06-22-2012, 01:35 PM   #22
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Well ok then!....ill buy that...

Now how bout that swing out stove (counter access) and cable outlet.? It never fails that i am stuck cooking (because im the best of the worst) and i miss the big plays of the game when we are tailgaiting, or just congregated around the cooking area....lol
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:07 PM   #23
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Well ok then!....ill buy that...

Now how bout that swing out stove (counter access) and cable outlet.? It never fails that i am stuck cooking (because im the best of the worst) and i miss the big plays of the game when we are tailgaiting, or just congregated around the cooking area....lol
Can't you see your tv from the outside kitchen? The hook-up is not that far.....run a cable from the hookup...it is only 15 ft. I do not like the swing out stove idea at all. The outback 312 has it and then you lose the drawer. I would not have wanted the swing out. My neighbor that has a 312 and prefers my 318 pullout over the swingout stove.
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Old 06-22-2012, 02:37 PM   #24
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Regarding your original post...

I am on the fence with the new layout. I like the higher counter space, but I do like my big cabinets on my 2011.

I do like the taller faucet, something I want to change on mine if possible down the road.

I would suggest not doing clear glass at least, using an opaque possibly. Can't tell from the pic if it's clear or not..

Pull out stove is good with me.

Thanks for asking our opinions! Makes me feel in some small way, a part of the process..

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I could....but i rather have a jack for a small tv in kitchen like a lot of other models do, as it takes up no space whatsoever, and if one didnt want to use it they lose nothing.

As for the drawer, i dont know about yours, but mine is under fridge and a swing out stove would not impact it at all. If anything a flip up lip could be addd (like the laredo 305tg) and counter space could be INCREASED.....i was not suggesting a setup exactly like the others......but merely taking an item that works and making it better..
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Actually the new 312's put the sink in the corner and do not lose the sink but then you need to reach over the swingout stove to get to the sink. Here is a picture of it.....
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Actually the new 312's put the sink in the corner and do not lose the sink but then you need to reach over the swingout stove to get to the sink. Here is a picture of it.....
My turn to derail the thread...

Anyone know who makes that grill?

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Actually the new 312's put the sink in the corner and do not lose the sink but then you need to reach over the swingout stove to get to the sink. Here is a picture of it.....
Do not like that setup at all....

Im thinking the standard 318bhs kitchen with ONE tall cabinet over sink, then 2 shorter ones next to that would be middle of the road....of course with a cable jack and swing out stove lol
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I prefer the 318's set-up much better as well.....which was one of a number of reasons that I bought a 318 over the Outback 312.
I bet you do not have an executive at Outback asking opinions of customers over on outbackers.com....
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Old 06-22-2012, 03:21 PM   #30
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Way back when . . . I was at the other company you guys are referring to . . . that swing out bracket under the countertop was the way we first started doing it on Outdoor Kitchens. Personally, I didn't like it because it just didn't seem to work well over time and got really hard to operate once it rusted and gunked up. I thought the fold-down countertop "cover" was a little hokey, too.

This is a productive thread . . . thanks, again.
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