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Old 09-26-2019, 09:03 AM   #1
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Removing Bounce and Wiggle

So this isn't just a Prime Time question. When we are set up and leveled, (have a 4 point Auto Leveling System on my Crusader), we still rock and roll when one person is walking around the trailer. I use a tripod on my hitch box and it helps, especially with the forward, and backwards, rocking.
My question is, what do you all use when you're parked for awhile to stabilize your rig.
My DW complains because I get up early and walk around getting dressed to take the dog out and making coffee. We will sit for a 2 month period so thought I'd try to improve the stability while parked. Any idee's?
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:12 AM   #2
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I took 99.9% of all my 5th wheel movement out with the addition of JT Strongarms and X-Chocks.

I DO NOT have the level-up system but I have read several places where it can be used with adapter lugs.

See this web page at eTrailer.
Can JT Strongarms be used on Lippert Ground Control/Level Up
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:25 AM   #3
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I have the JT's and the 4 point auto level. Installed without issue and works very well. I also use x-chocks.
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I have these for front jacks https://www.amazon.com/Andersen-Hitc...NsaWNrPXRydWU= and this https://www.amazon.com/X-Chock-Wheel...s%2C166&sr=8-2
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Try the X-Chocks first. You can make them using stainless steel hardware and pressure treated 4x4 if you prefer.
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Then, if the X-Chocks arenít sufficient you can use either the JT Strongarms or SteadyFast system.
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I use this style of wheel chock. Do you think the X chock would be a better use for my situation?
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Old 09-26-2019, 09:48 AM   #7
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Here are a couple of articles:
https://learntorv.com/shake-shake-sh...stabilization/

The JT StrongArms are a great product but the SteadyFast system is better. Same performance, less bars, and easier on the hands.
https://learntorv.com/product-review...t-stabilizers/
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anyone installed the steadyfast system on a rig with a front mounted spare? I emailed the mfr. and asked for suggestions, one to NOT relocate the spare. I wonder if the side/side arm can be mounted in the rear?
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Old 09-26-2019, 10:02 AM   #9
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I use this style of wheel chock. Do you think the X chock would be a better use for my situation?
There have been HUGE debates here on the merits of X-Chocks being used as wheel chocks. There is LOTS of reading/opinion if you care to do a search.

I've read claims of some saying the manufacturer of X-Chocks say they are not to be used in place of wedge type wheel chocks so I won't recommend you abandon the wheel chocks you have.

I will recommend if you install the X-Chocks correctly and tighten them down it WILL eliminate wheel movement. I can slide the wheels/tires on my ring when they are installed and they don't budge. (not that I make a habit of that!)

The X-Chocks are the first thing to go on when parked and the last to come off.
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The only way to remove almost all bounce it to take the weight off the springs and tires. Without completely jacking the tires off the ground, the supports/strong arms stabilizers can only reduce some movement. I reduced a considerable amount of movement by installing a pair of scissors jacks extremely close to the trailers tires. We now have a trailer with a 6 point level system. It works great on cement but needs resetting on gravel and sand after a few days.
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X-Chocks will prevent the tires from rotating. As long as there is weight on the tires they will do what they are supposed to do but my auto-level system occasionally lifts the tires off the ground on one side. The JT Strongarms and SteadyFast systems are designed to prevent any wiggle but they are more expensive and require you to drill holes in the frame for installation.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:33 PM   #12
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The leveling system does take some weight off tires when it levels .... I am good with the lack of movement I get with Andersen blocks on the front jacks and the x-chocks .... If you do not have auto-level the JT Strongarms and SteadyFast systems would seem to be best solution ... I can not see adding jacks not attached to the camper as a good solution .... Thanks Frank
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X-Chocks and Steadyfast eliminates just about all wiggle in my trailer.
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Removing Bounce and Wiggle

We have on our Crusader:

4 pt auto level
Tripod hitch support
Steadyfast system
Valterra jack under back frame
Two old slideout jacks in front of tires (leftovers and work well for this purpose)
No x-chocks....gave to neighbor parked on gravel site
We are parked seasonal on a full concrete pad with wooden steps instead of trailer steps

We are rock solid compared to old gravel site using the exact same setup - must be the concrete pad this year !
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We have on our Crusader:

4 pt auto level
Tripod hitch support
Steadyfast system
Valterra jack under back frame
Two old slideout jacks in front of tires (leftovers and work well for this purose)

We are parked seasonal on a full concrete pad with wooden steps instead of trailer steps
Yep that'll do it
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I have a MicroLite 25KS. This was a simple solution that I found. It's not elegant, but it works. Also, I cut the top angles parallel to the bottom.

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A good bra seems to help
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The only way to remove almost all bounce it to take the weight off the springs and tires. Without completely jacking the tires off the ground, the supports/strong arms stabilizers can only reduce some movement. I reduced a considerable amount of movement by installing a pair of scissors jacks extremely close to the trailers tires. We now have a trailer with a 6 point level system. It works great on cement but needs resetting on gravel and sand after a few days.
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Chocks...Xchocks will do nothing for Bounce and wiggle. You nailed it. Got to have support underneath to settle the bounce on the leafs or springs.
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Have a motorhome, same thing. I eliminated a great deal of the movement by putting blocks under the leveling jacks so as the jacks don't travel very far.

A trailer parked next to us used blocks under his leveling jacks and he explained to me it took just about all the movement away.

The more leveling jacks are extended the more movement in my experiences.
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We have found a lot of excessive movement can be stopped by using blocks under the level up pads to reduce the length of the shaft extended beyond the cylinder.
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