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Old 09-02-2018, 07:52 AM   #1
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Safety Issue on Crusader 315 RST

I was getting ready for a trip to Flaming Gorge Utah and was underneath inspecting my springs and shackles prior to the trip. I found on the right side, inside spring shackle nut was hitting the steel propane line when it was going over rough roads and dips. It had worn the nut edges off. No hole in the line, but sure that would come if left the way it was. Prime Time runs the line down the right side, tight to the inside of the spring mounts. When the springs deflect they hit the pipe. I shimmed the pipe over about a 1/2 inch so the shackle bolt nut misses it now, but wanted to tell anyone with these trailers to check it out. Obviously could develop into a dangerous situation if left unrepaired.
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Old 09-02-2018, 07:55 AM   #2
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Great info and something all owners should look for.
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I was getting ready for a trip to Flaming Gorge Utah and was underneath inspecting my springs and shackles prior to the trip. I found on the right side, inside spring shackle nut was hitting the steel propane line when it was going over rough roads and dips. It had worn the nut edges off. No hole in the line, but sure that would come if left the way it was. Prime Time runs the line down the right side, tight to the inside of the spring mounts. When the springs deflect they hit the pipe. I shimmed the pipe over about a 1/2 inch so the shackle bolt nut misses it now, but wanted to tell anyone with these trailers to check it out. Obviously could develop into a dangerous situation if left unrepaired.


Good catch. I have a 2016 315RST. Will definitely have to inspect this.
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Old 09-03-2018, 08:17 PM   #4
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Should be under right side on inside of springs toward the center rear equalizer.
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Old 09-04-2018, 01:56 PM   #5
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I wonder whether FR will issue a Recall Bulletin. I would certainly hope so.

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Old 09-04-2018, 03:58 PM   #6
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There was a recall on the 2014 PT 315RST for an issue similar to that. They put spaces in I believe to keep it from bottoming out on rough terrain and hitting the tires I believe. I got a notice about it and then different people at PT told me that my unit was and was not included. Took it to the dealer and they performed the recall maintenance. No issues. Not sure where you would go to get a correct answer but I would start with PT.
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Do you have any pictures? I'd like to take a look on my 319RKT, which is very similar, but I"m not sure what i'm looking for.
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Old 09-04-2018, 05:44 PM   #8
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You can see where the spring hits the frame on the front shackle to the equalizer. I moved the pipe over about a half inch so the nut misses the pipe. This is the right side forward shackle. The pipe was originally tight to the equalizer support. I moved the pipe holders over and added the cupped washer so that the pipe cannot move back against the mount.
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Another view. I wouldn't bank on a recall. It won't happen unless somebody blows up, and I would doubt it even then as it would be tough to prove what happened.
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Looks like the spring hangers are too short. This should be reported to the NTSB ASAP!
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Ok looks like the same setup is happening on the 319RKT. I took a look under it today. Click image for larger version

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I canít tell if my bolt or nut are showing any wear. Iíll crawl under there when the slide is out this weekend.
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Where's the pipe?

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Ok looks like the same setup is happening on the 319RKT. I took a look under it today. Attachment 185803

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I canít tell if my bolt or nut are showing any wear. Iíll crawl under there when the slide is out this weekend.
I can't see the gas pipe in your photos. Where is it?

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This is nothing new. My 2007 Wildcat was the same way and no recall. I unbolted the clamp for the propane pipe and slid it over and remounted the clamp. I found it when I had a spring issue noticed the shackle bolt head was wore down from rubbing the pipe.
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Ahh!

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Ahh! Easy to see since you've marked it. I had taken that to be the underside of the top flange of the frame I-beam.

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Ok looks like the same setup is happening on the 319RKT. I took a look under it today. Attachment 185803

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I can’t tell if my bolt or nut are showing any wear. I’ll crawl under there when the slide is out this weekend.
Looks like the same situation although from your pictures don't see any wear on your shackle nuts. Chip away the foam to get a better look, it does nothing anyway. It does look like the potential is there.
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I thought the same. The rig is brand new and only taken out on 2 local trips within 25 miles so the damage may not be visible yet.
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I live on a washboard dirt road, with about a 7 mile run to the pavement. I go extremely slow but still hit some pretty rough spots. Highways around the country can be rough also with the lack of maintenance at bridges etc. You can check to see if it will hit by jacking up the axle to the top of it's travel. In my case it was the front axle that was hitting. Remove the foam so you can get a good look. (Just chip away the excess that hangs down.)
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Who knew!

Thanks to all who have posted. Made me go out and look. My crusader 290 has that issue as well. Not severe, but, you can see where it has hit the gas line, note where the foam has been knocked off from where it has hit. Also note the gas line with the trace of rust where it has actually hit. Nothing bad, YET, but it is now on my list to do. It should be easy enough to move the gas line over just a bit.
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That's exactly the way mine looked. If you look at the ears on the nut they will be wearing down from hitting the pipe.
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