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Old 11-03-2013, 08:37 AM   #1
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tow 318bhs w/ modified 1500?

looking to purchase 318bhs next coming year. Was looking to see if anyone has towed this with modified half ton. Currently I have a 2003 5.3L pushing 350hpw/ trans and upgraded brake mods. I realize the factory tow rating would be violated however not sure if I am up to making another payment on another truck (2500 w/ 6.0) since my other one is paid off.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:54 AM   #2
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So what have you done to the rear end, axel bearings and springs?
It takes more than HP and brakes to tow.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:07 AM   #3
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looking to purchase 318bhs next coming year. Was looking to see if anyone has towed this with modified half ton. Currently I have a 2003 5.3L pushing 350hpw/ trans and upgraded brake mods. I realize the factory tow rating would be violated however not sure if I am up to making another payment on another truck (2500 w/ 6.0) since my other one is paid off.
It would tow it but in the end I would think you would be trucking up 3/4 ton.
Thats 8000 lb unit and 840 lbs hitch weight EMPTY. add about 250 to 350 lbs to the hitch weight and 500 to 750 lbs over all weight.
Imo that's not enough truck. 2500 w/ 6.0 would do a much better job.
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Old 11-03-2013, 11:26 AM   #4
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That's a lot of TT for a 1/2 ton.
Big incentives on 2013 trucks now.
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:03 PM   #5
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looking to purchase 318bhs next coming year. Was looking to see if anyone has towed this with modified half ton. Currently I have a 2003 5.3L pushing 350hpw/ trans and upgraded brake mods. I realize the factory tow rating would be violated however not sure if I am up to making another payment on another truck (2500 w/ 6.0) since my other one is paid off.

well, for this year my 318 was right around 9800lbs loaded and the tongue weight was 1120

I just really don't see how others are towing with 1/2 ton trucks (save for an ecobeast with max tow) and enjoying it in any way what so ever??

I have my wife son and daughter with me almost always so that's my incentive to not outright tempt fate by overloading/overworking my tv

the other real issue you have to look at is longevity of your current truck...I don't know how much towing you plan on doing or on what terrain, but if you start racking up miles with that kinda weight on your tail, its surely going to increase the rate of wear on your truck.....?

im sure you will get those on here who say you are absolutely nuts for even thinking of doing that.....and im sure you will get those on here who are doing exactly what your thinking about and will say its ok because they have done it and nothing has happened...?

in any case the 318 is a great trailer.....we love ours!
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Old 11-03-2013, 12:40 PM   #6
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HP wise you can probably do it. But some good LT rated tires and airbags would help a bunch. Replace the hitch to frame mounting bolts with new grade 8 hardware and torque to spec. Rear end gears of 3.73 or lower is almost mandatory plus a HD trans cooler.

I am pulling close to the same load with an 01' F150 5.4 but have LT275/85R16 10 ply tires, air bags and 3.73 gears.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:35 PM   #7
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I tow fine with my tundra.
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So far, so good with my 05 Silverado 1500 Ext Cab 5.3L with 3.23 rear end, airbags, LR E 10 ply tires towing 2012 Flagstaff 8528RKWS approx. 10,000 miles. May blow this yr on the way to FL, but it's done a terrific job so far.
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Old 11-03-2013, 05:49 PM   #9
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thing is POWER WISE these newer trucks will pull pretty much anything u hook em too...I mean the motor in my 250 is no diff than the F450 I'm going to....the diff is the frame/brakes/dually axles /u joints ect.....

power does not negate the effects of wheelbase/curb weight/braking power/cooling capacity and such which all have an impact on SAFE towing....I wish it did tho. ..lot cheaper than buying a new and proper TV for the trailer I'm getting next...
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:19 PM   #10
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I have the 3:73 rear end and was going to do the air bags and wd hitch, i was going to even replace the current hitch on the truck as well. It is a Z71 with the towing package. I could add a larger cooler, already had the tranny reworked in addition to deeper pan and built torque converter. Currrently not looking to go far from home and don't plan any mountain passes, mainly about 150 mile radius around cincinnati for now. I have just ran into a few dodge 1500 owners with the hemi that have positive comments and I just can't beleive how there truck with just a hemi is so much better than a built engine. I would consider adding another spring and or air bags...I will have to research more on advantages of each. Keep the posts coming...thanks
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