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Old 09-06-2011, 04:45 PM   #1
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Towing a Crusader 260RLD???

Hi Gang

looking to purchase a Crusader 260RLD. I need some towing advice.

I have a 2006 Dodge 2500, 4x4, cumming diseal, short box vehicle.

I'm concerned about real world pin weight and the payload of the truck. My truck weighs 7500 pounds with a full tank of diseal fuel and my wife and I. The Truck's Gross Vehicle wait is 9000, leaving 1500 pounds for payload or pin weight.

Does anyone have any real world pin weeights they can share with me?, regardless of the model, so i can get an idea what the pin weight for the 260rld will be.

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Old 09-06-2011, 05:38 PM   #2
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It's good that you ask before you buy. It might just save you a few $$.

I can't help you with the real world weights, but according to PT's web site you would be close after loading the 5'er. Especially after you add in 200-250 lbs for the hitch itself.
7500 GVW! Those diesel engines are heavy, aren't they?

Below is the info I found on PT's web site.

Model 260RLD
Base Weight
7,764 lb. (3,522 kg )
Hitch Weight
1,321 lb. (599 kg )
Cargo Carrying Capacity
2,298 lb. (1,042 kg )
Exterior Length
29 ft. 11 in. (9.1 m)
Exterior Height
11 ft. 6 in. (3.5 m)
Exterior Width
96 in. (2.4 m)
Fresh Water Capacity
60 gal. (227 L)
Black Water Capacity
35 gal. (132 L)
Gray Water Capacity
70 gal. (265 L)
Awning Size
20 ft. (6.1 m)
Tire Size
ST225/75R15/D

Here's the link to their Crusader 260RLD web page; Prime Time Manufacturing, Manufacturers of travel trailers and fifth wheels
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Old 09-06-2011, 09:26 PM   #3
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Hi Gang

looking to purchase a Crusader 260RLD. I need some towing advice.

I have a 2006 Dodge 2500, 4x4, cumming diseal, short box vehicle.

I'm concerned about real world pin weight and the payload of the truck. My truck weighs 7500 pounds with a full tank of diseal fuel and my wife and I. The Truck's Gross Vehicle wait is 9000, leaving 1500 pounds for payload or pin weight.

Does anyone have any real world pin weeights they can share with me?, regardless of the model, so i can get an idea what the pin weight for the 260rld will be.

Thank you
Gary
Gary:
I have a 290RLT with pretty similar weights to the 260RLD you are looking at. I have weighed my truck with the following results:

Actual Rated R-A
Front Axle 4870 5200 330
Rear Axle 3900 6100 2200
Combine 8810 10000 1190

As you can see if you use the GVWR I am over by about 500 lbs as the loaded pin weight of my trailer is 1700 lbs and the GVWR of my truck is 10000 lbs and weighs 8810 lbs loaded before I hitch the trailer. When connecting the trailer to the fifth wheel hitch it virtually adds no front axle weight so all the pin weight goes to the rear axle. I still do not exceed the overall rated axle weight of the rear axle so I am not really concerned and the truck handles the weight extremely well. The only concern I have is this: in the event of an accident where someone pulls out in front of me and I have no chance of stopping even if I didn't have a 10000 lb trailer hitched to my truck, I am sure either the law of some slick lawyer would use this information against me. At the earliest possible moment I will probably be trading my truck for one that will give me some cushion. You do not have much cushion either and I think after you load the trailer you will be over your GVWR also.
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Thank you for taking the time to give such detailed responses.

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No problem. Let us know how things work out.
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Dare I say what I tow with the exact same truck?
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M109, yep I would like to know. There are a lot of people that tow a fifth wheel exceeding the payload capacity. Just depends on how you feel about it.
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Considering the only thing different between a Fiat 2500 and 3500 are overload springs (which I have) I feel pretty comfortable about it.
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Considering the only thing different between a Fiat 2500 and 3500 are overload springs (which I have) I feel pretty comfortable about it.
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The Truck's Gross Vehicle wait is 9000, leaving 1500 pounds for payload or pin weight.

Thank you
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Are you sure your weights are right? My 2011 Dodge Ram with Cummins, Crew Cab (4 door) and long bed weighed in yesterday with 3/4 tank of fuel at 7720 pounds.

Have you had your truck weighed? You might want to get an actual weight with full tank of fuel.
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