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Old 08-22-2014, 12:55 PM   #11
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The yellow sticker shows our Tracer 3150 "empty" @ 6650 lbs.

In comparison, our ready-to-roll Ram 2500 & Tracer 3150 weights at the CAT Scale:
Steer Axle: 3,300
Drive Axle: 4,580
Trailer Axle: 7,340
GCVW: 15,220

This is towing with no unnecessary extras yet nothing we like to have left behind... This is with the Equalizer 4 WDH, family of 5, dog, 3 bikes mounted on the dinette boards, 5 folding chairs under the master bed, enough clothes & food for a week, plus a cooler, 2 smaller bikes, and 2 medium size boxes of firewood in the bed of the truck. Firewood was probably 75 lbs. altogether. Tanks were empty & the outdoor storage had (4) tubs with hoses, extension cords, lightweight leveling blocks, etc.

Although we are well-under our truck's 3,000 lb. payload capacity and all (3) axle ratings, 15,000 is our GCVW rating, so we were a tad over. Our GCVW is at the bottom of the 3/4 tons & top of the 1/2 tons. (The next year they upped it to 17,000 with no changes except for the tranny...) So IMO a practically loaded Tracer 3150 or sparsely loaded Tracer 3200 or Lacrosse 318 is maxing-out the best 1/2 tons. And, the Lacrosse 329 is squarely in 2500 territory.

IMO the Tundra is not enough if you plan to dry camp which requires hauling-in your own water & extra batteries and hauling-out your own waste tanks... For the last 25 years I have been strictly a Honda/Toyota guy when it comes to cars/vans but they don't make a 3/4 ton...

IMO the current Rams are the best bang/buck. You can get a 2500 without bells & whistles for less than the price of a 1500 w/all the options. I love the 22+ MPG of the new 3.0 Turbodiesel 1500, but the payload is too low... I'm waiting for 2500 options that utilize the 4.0 Cummins or newly developed 4.0 Fait (Ram) Turbodiesel. IMO those options would combine great gas mileage with 3/4 towing capability.
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:59 PM   #12
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We looked at the exact same models in when we purchased our Lacrosse 329BHT in the spring, the options in the lacrosse for just a little extra money pushed it to the top for us, we just felt what we lost with the tracer was pretty important to us, I would have liked the have the second entrance but it was not a deal breaker, we wanted the most storage we could get for the money, I am pulling it with a 3/4 crew cab 4x4 z71 Chevy, pulled it to myrtle beach and back with a nice equalizer hitch and had 0- issues doing so, except the 7.5 MPG . I would not go back and change my decision one bit, and the huge fridge is more than nice to have.
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:03 PM   #13
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I'm planning to take our setup next week to the cat scales on our way to 5 days just to see, more to really understand what the tongue weight is.

I love our sequoia, and tows great with the Roo, but realize these TT's are in a different league, especially with the length.

Everything is a balance of truck, trailer, and $$..... Oh, and keeping DW happy!
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scayne62,
If you were to do it again, would you go Diesel vs gas? The cost delta initially is huge.
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:22 PM   #15
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My TV is my daily driver so I would love to get the Ford Ecoboost's or Ram Turbodiesel's 22+ mpg on my daily commute. However, both would only save me about $500 /year vs. my Ram 2500's 16-17 mpg & the 1/2 tons would also limit what we can take with us camping...

In comparison, in 2013 I bought a 2 year-old 2011 Ram 2500 for only $14K. The $20K saved will buy a LOT of fuel! I try to remind myself of this when my 30 gal. tank cost $100 to fill. Some day I would like to buy used "Eco" technology when the price is right but for now I have a good TV & TT match.
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Old 09-17-2014, 02:44 PM   #16
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After reading a recent post regarding f150 w/ max tow/payload and a 5er, got me thinking if that was an option for the lactose 329? Anyone out there with that combo? On paper would be within spec- almost hard to believe actually.
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My TV is my daily driver so I would love to get the Ford Ecoboost's or Ram Turbodiesel's 22+ mpg on my daily commute. However, both would only save me about $500 /year vs. my Ram 2500's 16-17 mpg & the 1/2 tons would also limit what we can take with us camping...

In comparison, in 2013 I bought a 2 year-old 2011 Ram 2500 for only $14K. The $20K saved will buy a LOT of fuel! I try to remind myself of this when my 30 gal. tank cost $100 to fill. Some day I would like to buy used "Eco" technology when the price is right but for now I have a good TV & TT match.

Was that a 4x2? Seems low for a 2500 bc I looked at F350's 2012 and all wheel drive with diesel I they run in the $30K range that is why I decided to Lease a 2014 F150 EcoBoost Crew with Max and it is not much better on Fuel. At 6600 miles I get Combo C/H 16-17 all Hwy 22-24 and towing 9-10 mpg


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Old 09-17-2014, 05:41 PM   #18
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If you were to do it again, would you go Diesel vs gas? The cost delta initially is huge.
No I would not as the time I am towing is very minimal compared to the time I am not. I get 17 easy on the interstate when not towing so the loss is not a huge deal if I plan for the extra fuel when planning a trip. The extra 10k for the diesel I could not justify, would I like a diesel, yes, but it was not deal breaker buyign the truck.
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We own a 3200bht that we bought a couple of weeks ago and love it. I walked through the LaCrosse 329 and the only main difference was pretty integral to how it tows like outside height and total weight. I would have liked to have the silestone, but the weight difference was huge. The 3200bht was a lot less weight and we love the HUGE King bed in the bunkhouse. When we bring the dogs, our 4 kids and 2 dogs(one a great dane) sleep in the room with no issues.
We tow it with a max tow ecoboost crewcab. It does just fine, and literally it would have towed the Lacrosse according to specs, but the loss of payload concerned me. With an equalizer hitch, it does great. We have been on 3 camping trips so far and even with inclement weather, we have been really happy with the trailer. Pricing was a pretty large difference for us as we ended up below 29k otd with 2 batteries and the equalizer hitch. The best price i could get for the 329 was 3k more for similar hitch and batteries.
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We own a 3200bht that we bought a couple of weeks ago and love it. I walked through the LaCrosse 329 and the only main difference was pretty integral to how it tows like outside height and total weight. I would have liked to have the silestone, but the weight difference was huge. The 3200bht was a lot less weight and we love the HUGE King bed in the bunkhouse. When we bring the dogs, our 4 kids and 2 dogs(one a great dane) sleep in the room with no issues.
We tow it with a max tow ecoboost crewcab. It does just fine, and literally it would have towed the Lacrosse according to specs, but the loss of payload concerned me. With an equalizer hitch, it does great. We have been on 3 camping trips so far and even with inclement weather, we have been really happy with the trailer. Pricing was a pretty large difference for us as we ended up below 29k otd with 2 batteries and the equalizer hitch. The best price i could get for the 329 was 3k more for similar hitch and batteries.
Also, the outside kitchen is an absolute hit and really if you have the extra fridge outside, having the larger one inside mean less.
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