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Old 02-16-2015, 08:35 AM   #11
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jmiller72, in your previous posts you were considering buying a '15 Lacrosse 324rst (8,500 empty) & towing it with a '14 F150 EB HD/Max Tow which has a payload of around 1,900, tow rating of around 11,000, & max receiver rating of 1,130. I figure your Lacrosse will likely run over 10,000 ready to camp which means a tongue weight of around 1300... Although the EB has plenty of power, IMO that's a lot of trailer for a F150 HD...

This Fall, I almost traded-in my '11 Ram 2500 for a '14 F150 EB HD to achieve better mpg on my daily commute. After lots of research, IMO it was JUST enough truck for my 6,500 (empty) Tracer that is 8,400 ready to camp w/tongue weight of 1,100 making our total payload ready-to-camp around 2,200. (I even mounted 4/5 bikes to the dinette so I could get the payload down to what the F150 could handle...)

The only way for us to further reduce payload would be to move gear from the pass-through storage to the rear of the TT. However, with Equalizer 4, our 34' Tracer pulls best with 13%+ on the tongue. In the end I passed on the '14 F150 because it just doesn't have enough payload for this size TT with the camping gear we like to bring along. This winter I added a fiberglass cap to my 2500 & am getting my (free) firewood ready for the summer.... Had I chosen the F150, I could not have added a cap or hauled (free) firewood to our campsites...
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Old 02-16-2015, 09:23 AM   #12
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We have a 327 which according to PT weighs a few hundred pounds less than a 324 dry.

We pulled into a truck stop and weighed the rig a few weeks ago and it was a little over 9400 ttl weight. the weight was pretty much our regular tow weight, food and groceries, and about a weeks worth of clothes in the closet, I think the propane tanks were pretty full and all the hookup equipment. One note is all the tanks were empty.

I have had F250's for years and wouldn't consider towing a large trailer of any kind without at least a 3/4 ton truck. It's not the towing part I really worry about it's the emergency situations you WILL encounter sooner or later where a light duty truck just can't handle it. I know, I know this argument will continue for eons but I'd rather be safe on my capacities.
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If you ain't pulling it with at least a Mack or Peterbilt, you're overloaded according to the local weight police.
OC...If that's the case, then your a wanted felon !
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OC...If that's the case, then your a wanted felon !
Just don't tell the local weight police!
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Old 02-16-2015, 02:26 PM   #15
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I tow our 329BHT with a 2010 Chevy 2500 Z71, tows like a dream with a WDH, not sure the brand.
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Old 02-16-2015, 03:02 PM   #16
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IMO there are lots of retired & semi-retired folks on this forum who have been camping/towing for a long time & are totally safe running slightly overloaded. Last summer we camped next to an extremely nice retired couple towing a modest 5er with their F150. With just the 2 of them in the cab & nothing in the PU bed they were able to manage their payload. Plus, IMO, in an emergency an overloaded 5er combo is easier to control than an overloaded TT combo. This is from my background of towing commercial trailers behind a variety of 1/2, 3/4 & 1 ton trucks in all types of weather, road & traffic conditions.

In comparison, many new folks looking for advice on this forum have children & have to factor-in all of the extra gear a larger family brings along. We have 5 bikes, 3 scooters, 7 comfy outdoor chairs, a large dog & crate, outdoor & indoor games, plus food, clothes, and firewood for 10+ days. Our payload needs are a LOT different than the retired couple camping next to us. We're actually thinking of adding a couple kayaks... IMO it's better to have wiggle-room than to start-out your first season camping maxed-out... You will see what others have and want to add stuff vs. take-away stuff... In the end I'm glad we chose the Tracer vs. the heavier Lacrosse w/same floor plan...
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Old 02-16-2015, 06:00 PM   #17
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Thanks everybody for the replies!!!! We have decided to keep looking for something a little lighter. We love the 324rst floor plan!!! Since I have a brand new truck we have to find a little smaller (lighter) trailer that we both can agree on.
Thanks again!!!
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Old 02-16-2015, 06:46 PM   #18
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Prime Time makes a couple Tracers with Rear Living that weigh around 7,000 empty with empty tongue weights 200 less than the 324rst... The Tracers have a lower ceiling & other weight-saving features but IMO still have good fit & finish compared to other TTs in this price & weight range.

Granted, the Lacrosse 324rst is an attractive floor plan but that big wardrobe is right on the tongue... Combine this with the pass-through storage & under-bed storage & you would have been well past the payload of a F150 HD without placing anything in the bed of the PU...
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Old 02-17-2015, 03:26 PM   #19
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Ford' towing our Lacrosse 303RLS

We have towed our Lacrosse from Maine to Florida every year for 3 years with our 2011 Ford Lariat, 3.73, 5 liter. Looking forward to next month when we are leaving for Florida with our new 2014 Ford Lariat, Super-crew, Max Tow, Eco-Boost, the torque curve of this engine is assume.
The pleasure in the drive has not been the assume truck. The comfort, security and safety has been in the Hensley Hitch, after using the others, I would not tow a long 8000 lb + trailer without a Hensley Hitch. The Hensley is not a weight distribution sway controlling hitch, it is a weight distribution sway ELIMINATING hitch. Day and night compared to sway controlling (friction type) hitch.
An old RV'er I met last year said, "If you can't feel the difference with a Hensley hitch, your not driving your truck, you are steering it"
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I have a hensley. In my mind there's no other hitch!!!
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