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Old 12-12-2011, 11:38 PM   #11
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I can only say Prime Time Service has been amazing for us.. Secondly, there is no such thing as a "SIMPLE Project" At least none that I have attempted ..
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Old 12-13-2011, 07:52 AM   #12
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I can only say Prime Time Service has been amazing for us.. Secondly, there is no such thing as a "SIMPLE Project" At least none that I have attempted ..
Agree. PT service is fantastic. I am sure they will come through!

True on the simple projects... I never, ever, get an easy time when it comes to my stuff....

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Old 12-13-2011, 09:20 AM   #13
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Update..

PT is sending me a new hub, studs, and lugs directly from the manufacturer, at no charge! They have asked that I send them the hub and studs for inspection to make sure this does not happen again in the future. I think they have given Lippert an earful regarding this situation.

I am extremely pleased with the service that PT has provided me. I have always been a PT supporter and will continue to recommend their products to friends, family, and even strangers..! :-)

Lastly, I have a few questions to anyone that can answer.. My axle is rated at 4400lbs GAWR. Does anyone know the Part Numbers for the inner and outer bearings and races and rear seal for this hub?

Thanks!
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:01 PM   #14
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Glad you're getting your issue straightened out. FL has got to be better than PA right now...

As for the torque/anti-seize issue: that video didn't say "don't use lube on your fasteners," it said "use the correct lube on your fasteners," ie, one that doesn't effect torque values (but that piece seemed like just a fancy ad for ARP). They didn't test on Permatex anti-seize but I don't believe it's use would change torque values enough to make any kind of difference (maybe 3-5%). All our hard-core Jeep and rock crawling buggy competitors use it on their lug studs and have never reported any issues. It might not have kept your lug studs from spinning in the first place, but it does make for less of a struggle when removing your lug nuts. I'm going to keep using it on any tire I change, and I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:04 PM   #15
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Glad you're getting your issue straightened out. FL has got to be better than PA right now...

As for the torque/anti-seize issue: that video didn't say "don't use lube on your fasteners," it said "use the correct lube on your fasteners," ie, one that doesn't effect torque values (but that piece seemed like just a fancy ad for ARP). They didn't test on Permatex anti-seize but I don't believe it's use would change torque values enough to make any kind of difference (maybe 3-5%). All our hard-core Jeep and rock crawling buggy competitors use it on their lug studs and have never reported any issues. It might not have kept your lug studs from spinning in the first place, but it does make for less of a struggle when removing your lug nuts. I'm going to keep using it on any tire I change, and I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Fair enough...
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:32 PM   #16
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We had an old Ford that needed the driver rear wheel re-torqued weekly! However all the other wheels stayed tight. I'm glad those days are over!
Once you get good parts you'll be fine. Enjoy your trip! Hopefully you won't feel like you have to stop every 25 miles and check it. If you're like me, you'll be checking it every 20.
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Old 12-13-2011, 06:52 PM   #17
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I don,t think the studs were over torqued either they would have a twisted look to them. Take a caliper measure the hole size then the stud you should get your answer fast.
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Old 12-14-2011, 02:09 AM   #18
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That is what prime time and I think. Lippert has already denied the claim saying they looked over torqued. I say BS... I am so anal about torquing them correctly.

Prime time is still figuring exactly the best course of action. I'll pay for a hub at this point, I want to be able to go to Disney ...

PT has been great thus far. I am pleased with the service!
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Didn't know you could tell if something was "over torqued" just by looking at a picture!!
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Old 12-15-2011, 09:20 AM   #19
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Latest Update...

Primetime is sending me an entire hub replacement, complete with bearings, races, studs, and lugs.. I am happy camper! (pun intended)

But I am slightly concerned...

I have the Lippert part number for the assembly they are sending.. 141286. This is the correct hub, and it matches the one I have identically down to the bearings being the same.
It states that it is for a 3,500lbs axle. I have a 4400lbs axle. So, the hubs are/will be under-rated for the axle? Is this the cause of the failure?

I understand that we are "saving" weight everywhere we can, but is this the best place to do it? I am sure there is a safety factor built in, but I'd feel so much more comfortable with a hub that is at minimum, rated for the axle assembly.. Why not go for a 5200lbs hub/axle? Is the cost savings really that much? Heck, I'd pay for the upgrade..


Lastly, now, I have done even more research, digging.... Actually understanding what my axle tag says/means. It says 4400lbs GAWR, but reading the tag, it is actually a 3500lbs axle according to lippert's website.. So is it really rated to carry 4400lbs or did we just up the GAWR to make it work...? I am sure this is standard industry practice, but it really makes me uneasy.. especially on my upcoming long trip...

Thanks again to PT and their awesome service, I truly and sincerely appreciate it! I should have the new hub by first of next week.

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Old 12-19-2011, 02:18 PM   #20
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FYI - interesting questions on the hub rating, so we checked. This hub is used on both 3500 # and 4400 # axles and is rated for both applications.

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