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Old 12-02-2014, 11:59 AM   #1
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Done with propane

I bought my 2011 Rockwood TT with a 2000 watt inverter, 2 solar panels and 4 batteries so that I could boondock. However, after witnessing a propane explosion in a 5th wheel parked right behind me a few days ago, I refuse to use propane anymore. I know, I know - if it's used smart, it's relatively safe. I've told myself that for my 8 years of RVing, but I can't get past the sound and the sight of that explosion. I haven't slept all night since it happened because I keep hearing the explosion. The lady in the 5th wheel was rescued by a brave neighbor who climbed in the hole where her slide out was blown completely out of the 5th wheel by the explosion, but her little dog didn't make it out. It is a miracle that she's alive and not more severely injured. I've seen the aftermath several times but never actually witnessed it. You can't ignore it anymore when you actually see it happen. While researching operating any kind of refrigerator with solar I read that the chemicals in the RV refrigerators can mix and explode if the refrigerator isn't perfectly level. To which I responded - SERIOUSLY??? Why would they make an exploding refrigerator and install it in a rolling house?

So anyway - I am buying 2 Champion 3500/4000 generators and having them installed in the bed of my truck and I am adding 2 more
solar panels and four more batteries (removing the propane tank mounts and putting in another container to hold the batteries). I can cook pretty much anything on a fire outside or on a charcoal grill, or using the generator to run the microwave. My coffee pot is 12 volt. I can run water through the coffee pot or heat it up in the microwave to use for bathing and dishwashing or heat it up on the fire outside. My only issue is refrigeration. I've read that my freezer on my refrigerator can be used like an ice chest - just put a block of ice or a solidly frozen bag of ice in there in a pan to catch the water when it melts and put whatever I need to keep fresh - eggs, coffee creamer - in there. Pretty much will use the bottom of the refrigerator as a pantry. My only concern is what will happen to the refrigerator if I don't use it for a few years, then want to sell the RV? Does not using it hurt it?

Wondering if there are any other folks that boondock without propane?
Thanks!!
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:06 PM   #2
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So anyway - I am buying 2 Champion 3500/4000 generators and having them installed in the bed of my truck
I have one of these Champion generators. Are you going to be boondocking where noise from the generator will be a concern........as they aren't necessarily a quiet generator ?
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:25 PM   #3
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Boondocking

The whole purpose of boon docking for me is to be ALONE and away from people. Other than the occasional stop in a Walmart parking lot for the night, I plan to boondock away from people. I have no issue with plugging in somewhere sometimes, but when I'm out west - or on the coast - I want to boondock as far away from folks as possible. The rating on the Champion generator is 68 decibels. The Honda that is lauded for being so quiet is 58. I was hoping it wasn't that loud but if it is, I'll live with it as I won't be using it that much. I don't watch a lot of television - just use my computer at night. Hoping the new solar panels will give me enough battery power to do that at night.

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Old 12-02-2014, 12:27 PM   #4
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I understand that what you witnessed had to be horrifically tramatic. Frankly, I can't even imagine. This isn't an answer to your question and likely out of place- but are you sure that you aren't overreacting? Refrigerator explosions do happen, but they're extremely rare. I hear a hundred-fold times more car accidents than I do about camper/propane explosions. Yet, we all still drive.

I believe that you're setting yourself up for a lot of hard work (heating water in a coffee pot to bathe?!) and expense in generators, batteries, and recurring ice expenses.
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:44 PM   #5
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That's what I used to think. Just can't think that way anymore. Yes - hard work - but at least I'll be alive to do it!
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That's what I used to think.
What did you used to think?
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Old 12-02-2014, 12:51 PM   #7
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You might try one of these for refrigeration. Koolatron 29 qt. Voyager Cooler (12-Volt)-P27 at The Home Depot


Using fridge as pantry will keep it aired out if you open it a lot. But as far as the mechanics, I think you should bleed all the propane lines thoroughly. Check with the manufacturer. Many people store their rv for an extended time, and then a regular servicing seems to take care of any issues.


I think you should proceed with your plans. You will be that much closer to independence by eliminating one more dependency. But remember, generators need gas. How are you going to carry and store it? That too can be dangerous. Go for the solar as much as possible. All the best to you! Sylvia
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You might try one of these for refrigeration. Koolatron 29 qt. Voyager Cooler (12-Volt)-P27 at The Home Depot


Using fridge as pantry will keep it aired out if you open it a lot. But as far as the mechanics, I think you should bleed all the propane lines thoroughly. Check with the manufacturer. Many people store their rv for an extended time, and then a regular servicing seems to take care of any issues.


I think you should proceed with your plans. You will be that much closer to independence by eliminating one more dependency. But remember, generators need gas. How are you going to carry and store it? That too can be dangerous. Go for the solar as much as possible. All the best to you! Sylvia
Concur on all!

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First Alert Plug-In Explosive Gas and Carbon Monoxide Alarm with Digital Display-GCO1CN at The Home Depot

You could put a couple more of these in there....

or this...

First Alert GCO1CN Combination Explosive Gas and Carbon Monoxide Alarm with Backlit Digital Display - Walmart.com
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We haven't boondocked, but we dry camp 95% of the time.
so propane is a must for us.
i'm a retired firefighter and have seen my share of disasters. I can tell you that what you saw is a very rare incident. I have no problem using propane in our rig.

if your neighbors house caught fire due to a gas explosion, would you refuse to use gas in your home?
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