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Old 09-01-2013, 07:01 AM   #11
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When you say wife and kids along there will never be enough water or large enough holding tank.....or bank of batteries that will supply needs ..... you will be lucky to make thru one night.....I found a water meter gauge to go on end of hose at CW on clearance.....seems to be very accurate.....digital readout....data for my trailer say 38 gal fresh water.....but most I can get in tank when pump no longer draws water is 32 gal....so thinking hot water tank included in that number....good luck....if you camp like you are in a tent, it will work out in trailer.....
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Old 09-01-2013, 08:27 AM   #12
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When you say wife and kids along there will never be enough water or large enough holding tank.....or bank of batteries that will supply needs ..... you will be lucky to make thru one night.....I found a water meter gauge to go on end of hose at CW on clearance.....seems to be very accurate.....digital readout....data for my trailer say 38 gal fresh water.....but most I can get in tank when pump no longer draws water is 32 gal....so thinking hot water tank included in that number....good luck....if you camp like you are in a tent, it will work out in trailer.....
You sre right with your assumption, hot water tank capacity is included in the listed fresh water tank capacity. :-(
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:14 AM   #13
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Thanks for all of the responses. I believe the root of my issues was a weak battery. (Fridge not working, water pump not working correctly, etc along with my ignorance and learning curve). I purchased a new battery and will have the origional tested tomorrow. As far as being stranded, we are only about 2-3 miles from our house. So it has been more of a nuisance than a stranded situation.


Once I connected the new battery everything seemed to come to life. Fridge cooled, water pumped. My wife was hooking up the (?) tow plug and running the tow vehicle for a while. She stated it would give her enough juice to run for a bit.


I also purchased a couple of 7 gal water jugs to fill the water tank. But I think geojudi was correct in saying I was water bound as my grey tanks are not full and I was able to add a bunch of water.


I agree with not having enough water battery with the wife and 6 kids, but my issues were happening on the first night and with our planning I was hoping to make it at least a couple of nights before running out of water/power. Maybe I am too hopefull.


Again thank you, thank you!!! I appreciate all the help. I have been reading and reading and still have a lot to learn.

I have been at work the last couple of days and am again today, off tomorrow so hopefully I will be able to play around with things a bit. Trouble shooting from afar with all of your input has been a blessing! I owe all of you a cold one!
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with a family as big as yours and 6 of them being kids, i can bet that they are your water usage problem.
dry camping or boondocking with that large of a family that are not used to conserving water or battery power, you better invest in a generator, along with a big tote tank.

if you don't mind me asking, what river in Calif., are you camping next to?
might be a place i'd like to check out.
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Just curious; With 6 kids and you and the wife, are all of you using the toilet or using the outhouses at the campsite? How full was your black tank after the 1st day? I read sometime ago a post where a camper reported having a similar problem as you with using too much water. He discovered that one of the kids was really interested watching the water swirl around in the toilet for long periods of time. That turned out to be his water consumption problem!! I camp with just myself and my wife and we very seldom use the toilet where we can usually use the campground restrooms.
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with a family as big as yours and 6 of them being kids, i can bet that they are your water usage problem.
dry camping or boondocking with that large of a family that are not used to conserving water or battery power, you better invest in a generator, along with a big tote tank.
I got a couple of the 7 gal from the Walmart.

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if you don't mind me asking, what river in Calif., are you camping next to?
might be a place i'd like to check out.
We are on a friends ranch next to the Tuolumne River. East of Modesto. There are several families out there for the weekend. Just a small grove of maples and oaks next to the river with a bunch of free space for the kiddos to run around.
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Just curious; With 6 kids and you and the wife, are all of you using the toilet or using the outhouses at the campsite? How full was your black tank after the 1st day? I read sometime ago a post where a camper reported having a similar problem as you with using too much water. He discovered that one of the kids was really interested watching the water swirl around in the toilet for long periods of time. That turned out to be his water consumption problem!! I camp with just myself and my wife and we very seldom use the toilet where we can usually use the campground restrooms.
Yes everyone is using the toilet. After the first day it only read 1/4 tank. I am not sure if I fully trust the sensors yet. I didnt check it last night but I am pretty sure between the low battery and the air bound fresh water tank that was my real issue.
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never rely on the OEM sensors, they notoriously inaccurate, unless you install some aftermaket sensors, like Horst Probes.
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I would suggest you also change some of the main use light bulbs to LED's. That will save you a ton of battery juice - they use about 90% less power. Might want to get two 6 volt batteries if you have the room in a separate battery bank and consider a solar panel as well. Take your time and see what works for you guys.
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so thinking hot water tank included in that number.
Yep, it is. And unfortunately you cannot access that 6 gallons in the hot water tank once the main tank is dry. No water to push it through. So, it is really very misleading . . . . perhaps dishonest.
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