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Old 02-17-2018, 01:36 PM   #1
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Two Honda 2000s or the Yamaha 3000 seb

We are purchasing a Cedar Creek 34RE fifth wheel In a few weeks.

We would like to use the a/c and the ability to recharge batteries. Ocassionally.

I cannot decide between the Honda 2000's and a supplemental gas tank or a Yamaha 3000 seb that weighs #150'and would have to live in he truck bed.

Any opinions?
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Old 02-17-2018, 01:50 PM   #2
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Two Honda 2000s for us. Easy to add nurse tank, carry, and maintain. No problem with lack of enough power. And when we don't need the a/c, we have the option to only run one, using less fuel.

The 3000 may or may not start a 15k a/c. The only plus for the 3000 is if it comes with a remote start/stop.
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Old 02-18-2018, 12:14 AM   #3
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I have both; far easier to travel with two Hondaís
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Old 02-18-2018, 01:37 AM   #4
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If the one Yammie goes down, that's it for the trip. With 2 Hondas, you can run pretty much everything if one goes down. Possible exception would be the A/C without the soft start kit.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:22 AM   #5
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15K BTU A/C May Pull More than You Think from Gennies that Push Less Than You Expect

tomkatb,

I started with 2 Briggs and Stratton in parallel with my new TH last summer. Don't know whether it was one bad genny between the two, or if the 2 P2000s pushing actually only something like 3800 watts together wasn't actually enough, but, A/C never ran well until I complained to my dealer the setup he advised failed. Dealer upgraded to 2 Briggs and Stratton P3000s and I couldn't be happier with the performance improvement. One thing I noticed that I don't see mentioned too often in this common thread topic is that 2 3000s work a lot less than 2 2000s - I swear the 2 3000s in parallel are noticeably quieter than the 2 2000s. I guess it makes sense because the more powerful gennies don't have to work as hard. I'm guessing that also probably means they'll likely last longer. I boondock a lot, so, I always take at least one genny and keep it in the truck bed just in case my battery gets drained by my awning. The P3000 (starting power 3000 watts, running power 2600 watts, so that's 5200 watts I believe when you run them in parallel) has wheels and an extendable handle and weighs 84 pounds.
Another, benefit is that I generally can run whatever else I want when the A/C is operating. Hope this helps.

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Old 02-18-2018, 11:31 AM   #6
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Is an onboard genny an option? What size AC? What are you other needs? I had 2 yamaha 2Ks that fit my TT great, ran my 13.5K AC and a few other small accessories. they didnt do so great with the AC and Mircrowave at the same time but they worked as long as you didnt need to run both at the same time for any amount of time.

After getting my 5er and having an onboard genny I swear by it for ease of use and plenty of power. I can start it from inside and it is quiet.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:34 AM   #7
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Two Honda 2000s for us. Easy to add nurse tank, carry, and maintain. No problem with lack of enough power. And when we don't need the a/c, we have the option to only run one, using less fuel.

The 3000 may or may not start a 15k a/c. The only plus for the 3000 is if it comes with a remote start/stop.
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Old 02-18-2018, 01:47 PM   #8
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Just a different approach, but instead of two Honda's vs one Yamaha, I use two Yamaha EF2000's.

But the idea is simple. How much power do you need, what are your physical limitations on handling the generators, where will they be placed in use, etc. Lot's of considerations.

And any of these will comfortably start even a 15K AC if one has something like the MicroAir Easy Start on the AC unit. And of course, with the larger units, remote start is indeed a option.

but one could also consider something like the Champion 3500. Less expensive than either a Yamaha or Honda equivalent, and it can be had in dual fuel.... gas and propane. And it has remote start along with being about as quiet as any other inverter generator. Weighs in at about 100 lb. Will comfortably run the entire trailer along with AC, again, if one uses something like the Easy Start on the AC unit.

The killer problem with the AC units is start up amps to get the compressor rolling. The Easy Start does a gradual ramp up to get the compressor rolling gradually and thereby use far less start up amperage. A very good solution.
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Old 02-18-2018, 02:35 PM   #9
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I havenít purchased yet but leaning toward 2 generator s because of loading and now I read depenibily, inverter s r quieter
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Old 02-18-2018, 03:43 PM   #10
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Honda now has a EU2200i generator on the market, believe the wattage is 1800 constant and 2200 surge, two can be ran together. I believe Direct Electric is taking orders for them, but do not have any in stock yet. Their promotional price is same as the EU2000i. One feature I like about the EU2200i is the fuel shutoff valve, this feature allows you to shut the fuel supply off and run the engine out of fuel thereby preventing the fuel to age and causing carburetor problems. Check it out.
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