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Old 01-30-2015, 07:31 AM   #1
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16FB or 17FQ

Hi everybody..

We are looking for our first travel trailer. We kind of narrowed it down to these two. It's just the two of us and are looking to camp in the warmer weather in the winter. We like the storage in the 16FB but like the walk-around bed of the 17FQ.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

We will be towing with a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee.

Thanks, Joe in PA
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Old 01-30-2015, 09:06 AM   #2
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I think you'll love the walk-around bed first time someone needs to use the restroom in the middle of the night .. In the 17BH they'd be the one on the inside! We love ours, for 15 years in the pop up we did "The Crawl Over". Too old for that now.
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:09 AM   #3
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Joe,

We're very happy with our 17FQ so far. Yes, the walk around bed was probably the main selling point. But we were also impressed with the overall quality, fit, and finish of this line of campers.

While the 16FB does have more overall storage space we've found the 17FQ has plenty for the two of us. Unless you're going to be on the road for weeks at a time I think you'll be fine.
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:54 AM   #4
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17 FQ definitely has our attention as far as what my wife and I are looking at. Its the his and her side of the bed thing that really sold it. That and the awesome bathroom with vanity and medicine cabinet. Really it came down to this or the Cherokee 16 FQ for us. The determining factor being the vanity is nicer in the Clipper.
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:17 PM   #5
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Chaz,

We are still looking but the 17FQ is still at the top of the list..

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Old 03-11-2015, 07:33 AM   #6
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I didn't see the Cherokee 16 FQ when I was looking on the internet for a new trailer last year. Same basic layout as the 17 FQ with some differences. From the on-line photos it appears the Clipper has a bit more storage space. I do like the rear fold down deck on the 16 FQ although I wonder how much weight I can carry.
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:02 PM   #7
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Take a look at the Prime Time Avenger ATI 17QB. I've been looking at this and the Clipper 17FQ (and Viking 17FQ, which is the same as the Clipper) at shows. The Prime Time has visibly better workmanship, and a much more efficient bathroom layout, with hanging storage and outside-accessible storage that the Clipper/Viking does not have. There is also the Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ, but I've not seen one yet.

Here's two youtube videos of the Prime Time Avenger ATI 17QB. and .
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Old 03-27-2015, 04:05 PM   #8
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ATI 17QB vs Viking/Clipper 17FQ

Overall dimension they're the same unit. As to build quality I haven't been in a 17QB unit so I can't verify if it's better or worse than the 17FQs. I would suspect they may be built in the same factory as it wouldn't make economic sense to build these very similar units in two locations.

The different bath arrangements both have pros and cons. The 17QB does gives you more hanging storage and additional outside accessible storage. But I don't like the small sink stand as there's little room even to set down your toothbrush. In the 17FQ the vanity style sink gives you more room for what I consider bath items. And from the pictures the 17FQ has more room in the bath area for maneuvering.

Galley and dinette are pretty much the same, with just some things - refrigerator mainly - moved around. Up front the 17QB lacks the large window on the front of the 17FQs. I've found that window lets in a lot of light to the camper so I consider it a plus.

Another difference I saw in a video for the 17QB is that they leave the under bed storage area open to the front pass-thru storage area. I use the front pass-thru storage for "grimmer" items like lawn chairs, mats, etc. So I prefer having the separation with the under bed area. Again that's personal preference.
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Old 03-28-2015, 06:11 AM   #9
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Joe,

We're very happy with our 17FQ so far. Yes, the walk around bed was probably the main selling point. But we were also impressed with the overall quality, fit, and finish of this line of campers.

While the 16FB does have more overall storage space we've found the 17FQ has plenty for the two of us. Unless you're going to be on the road for weeks at a time I think you'll be fine.
Could you do me a favor and tell me what ball height I need for the 17FQ..

Thanks, Joe
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Old 03-28-2015, 09:40 AM   #10
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Overall dimension they're the same unit. As to build quality I haven't been in a 17QB unit so I can't verify if it's better or worse than the 17FQs. I would suspect they may be built in the same factory as it wouldn't make economic sense to build these very similar units in two locations.

Another difference I saw in a video for the 17QB is that they leave the under bed storage area open to the front pass-thru storage area. I use the front pass-thru storage for "grimmer" items like lawn chairs, mats, etc. So I prefer having the separation with the under bed area. Again that's personal preference.
Google maps shows the factories are 12 miles apart. Prime Time About Us. I agree on the underbed storage. First thing I would do is put in a separating wall.

Interesting coincidence - you're in La Plata County, CO; I'm in the town of La Plata, MD.
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Joe,

With the trailer sitting level I measured 16.5 " from the ground to the bottom edge of the hitch coupler.
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"I'm in the town of La Plata, MD."

I'm familiar with the area. While stationed in DC (2000 - 2006) I lived in Fredericksburg, VA. Used to ride my motorcycle across the 301 bridge to a place called Captain Billy's Crab House. That's a nice area chock full of Colonial and Civil War history.
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With the trailer sitting level I measured 16.5 " from the ground to the bottom edge of the hitch coupler.
Thanks..I picked up a e-qual-izer wdh on craigslist but figure I'll just use a regular ball hitch to bring it home..

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Anymore info on the 17 FQ?
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I believe my 07 Kia sorento 4x4 can pull the
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I believe my 07 Kia sorento 4x4 can pull the
I plan on pulling mine with my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee.. I put the oem hitch and a p2 brake controller on it..

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I plan on pulling mine with my 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee.. I put the oem hitch and a p2 brake controller on it..

Joe
Thanks - I was on my phone when I tried to complete the previous message, but I have a 07 Kia Sorento which I believe I can pull the 17FQ..
Owners manual reads 5,000 lbs... I like the bed lay out and plenty of restroom space. I think it be a good first owner camper. The price is right. I was looking at a retro with the same layout and they are nice, but the price tag was 18,000....which I don't think it for me at this time. I am also looking at trailmanor but that too is $$$....

I am just trying to figure out what the MPG will look like...


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Thanks - I was on my phone when I tried to complete the previous message, but I have a 07 Kia Sorento which I believe I can pull the 17FQ..
Owners manual reads 5,000 lbs... I like the bed lay out and plenty of restroom space. I think it be a good first owner camper. The price is right. I was looking at a retro with the same layout and they are nice, but the price tag was 18,000....which I don't think it for me at this time. I am also looking at trailmanor but that too is $$$....

I am just trying to figure out what the MPG will look like...


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Which "retro" are you looking at??

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Has anyone changed out 13 to 14" tires? I'm looking at a17fq but tires seen small.
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Old 03-30-2015, 07:10 PM   #20
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Has anyone changed out 13 to 14" tires? I'm looking at a17fq but tires seen small.
I hope you get some replies as I am wondering the same thing...
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