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Based on my work at Boeing (landing gear and brakes) I'd make the following point. I looked into about 150 in-flight tire burst incidents.
Unless your RV is powerful enough to accelerate to 150 mph in about 2 miles with a dragging brake, and can then fold its wheels into an enclosed box, you don't need to waste your money on nitrogen. If you can get it for free, it has a few very minor advantages.
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09-10-2015, 12:17 AM
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My vote is for SOLID. 2nd...stone and square
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09-10-2015, 11:38 AM
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When parking for long stays you should park on plastic mats, helps save tiers.
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09-10-2015, 12:25 PM
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I had bad gas cramps the other day and tried to add air but I couldn't find a fitting anywhere.
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09-10-2015, 12:42 PM
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I just like the pretty green caps. Makes it all worthwhile.
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09-10-2015, 12:59 PM
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Use helium. Makes everything lighter!!!!!!!!!
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09-10-2015, 01:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by F and E Damp
Based on my work at Boeing (landing gear and brakes) I'd make the following point. I looked into about 150 in-flight tire burst incidents.
Unless your RV is powerful enough to accelerate to 150 mph in about 2 miles with a dragging brake, and can then fold its wheels into an enclosed box, you don't need to waste your money on nitrogen. If you can get it for free, it has a few very minor advantages.
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Dry nitrogen servicing is required on aircraft tires for the following reasons...
1. It's dry!
2. Nitrogen does NOT support combustion!
3. Required by aircraft manufacture's Approved (FAA, EASA, etc.) Technical Publications!
For auto/truck/trailer use... what a scam!  
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09-10-2015, 01:10 PM
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I want to meet somebody who uses hydrogen gas. I hear it's really inexpensive. Or helium which is much more expensive but might make the trailer lighter..
Of course, the downside with a hydrogen is your trailer will explode, but that's just a little quicker way to get rid of it than carrying hundred pound bottles of propane inside
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09-10-2015, 01:11 PM
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Okay, I'm at work and I'm in a sick mood. So for those who t
Take everything too seriously, please do not put hydrogen or helium in your tires
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09-10-2015, 02:17 PM
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What Happy Vibe said
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09-10-2015, 02:25 PM
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I use Asinine in my tires.
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09-10-2015, 02:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evereddie
I use Asinine in my tires.
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HA!! Many of "us" have made that switch without even knowing it.
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09-10-2015, 03:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mewcasa
Dry nitrogen servicing is required on aircraft tires for the following reasons...
1. It's dry!
2. Nitrogen does NOT support combustion!
3. Required by aircraft manufacture's Approved (FAA, EASA, etc.) Technical Publications!
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Correct. However the primary reason the FAA issued Airworthiness Directive 87-08-09 (AD) on 06-01-1987 was to prevent aircraft wheels on Large Transport Category Aircraft such as Boeings,etc. from catching fire in the event of over-heating,etc. Large aircraft wheels contain large amounts of magnesium which we know supports fire and is difficult to extinguish.
The AD applies to aircraft in use on the effective date of 06-01-1987.
The FAA also amended 14 CFR 25.733 (e) (Tires) which governs the certification of Large Transport Aircraft that all such aircraft be equipped with nitrogen filled tires on and after 02-1993.
There have some references to nitrogen use in aircraft tires ( some by me) that overlook the primary reason for the FAA issuing the AD.
One other thing - nitrogen is only required on Civil Large Catergory Aircraft. Those are defined by the FAA as those aircraft having a certificated takeoff weight of 75,000 lbs or more.
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09-10-2015, 03:23 PM
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Quote:
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I use Asinine in my tires.
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But dosen't the Asinine dilute the nitrogen? Or does your Asinine contain larger molocules than the nitrogen?
Grumpy
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09-10-2015, 03:44 PM
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Quote:
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But dosen't the Asinine dilute the nitrogen? Or does your Asinine contain larger molocules than the nitrogen?
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Asinine doesn't dilute anything. It takes over.
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09-10-2015, 03:51 PM
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What if my take off weight is less than 75,000 lbs? Does the FAA have any specs on the Forest River Airflyte?
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09-10-2015, 04:08 PM
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Top off with you air compressor, like they say it'll be 78% nitrogen which has bigger molecular and will be the of last natural gases in the air to leach through the rubber. Eventually your tires will be back up to the upper +90% nitrogen level IMO  . Hey can I get some service over here? Two Beers please..
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09-10-2015, 04:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockwoodjoe
What if my take off weight is less than 75,000 lbs? Does the FAA have any specs on the Forest River Airflyte?
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Be careful, the FAA will start having static fatigue and bird strike testing on RV's...
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09-10-2015, 04:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gashog
Be careful, the FAA will start having static fatigue and bird strike testing on RV's...
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... using frozen chickens fired from cannons
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09-10-2015, 04:57 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gashog
Be careful, the FAA will start having static fatigue and bird strike testing on RV's...
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Now you all are being silly.
I simply posted my reply in an effort to simplify and perhaps narrow the scope of this thread when it comes to pulling nitrogen and aircraft tires into it.
Perhaps I failed in that effort - at least with some people here. 
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