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Old 09-07-2016, 10:25 AM   #1
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Question Buy or Not:2014 Freedom Express Liberty Edition 320BHDS

I have an opportunity to purchase a 3 slide out 2014 Freedom Express Liberty Edition 320 BHDS that I am told is in pristine condition. Reason for sale: divorce.
Asking price is 23K, hitch & sway-bars included.
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1. Is this a fair price for the unit?
2. Will my truck be able to handle this beast? 2010 Dodge Ram 1500 TRX4, 5.7 L Hemi MDS VVT, 3.92 Axle Ratio, 5 speed auto trans (545RFE). I plugged my VIN into the Dodge website and was told it can handle 10,000 pounds.
3. Any other thoughts, feedback?

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Old 09-07-2016, 10:45 AM   #2
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Seems like a very good price, but towing it is another issue. Check the load capacity ( not towing capacity) on the sticker on the drivers door. The hitch weight ( probably 1200lbs) , weight of hitch 100 lbs, and weight of passengers and cargo in the truck should not exceed the max towing capacity. I would not tow that trailer with a 1/2 ton vehicle..
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:38 AM   #3
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Seems like a very good price, but towing it is another issue. Check the load capacity ( not towing capacity) on the sticker on the drivers door. The hitch weight ( probably 1200lbs) , weight of hitch 100 lbs, and weight of passengers and cargo in the truck should not exceed the max towing capacity. I would not tow that trailer with a 1/2 ton vehicle..
I tow a 310BHDS with a Toyota Tundra. I'm right at my limits but within spec even after all my cargo and passengers are accounted for. Tows like a dream.
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Old 09-09-2016, 02:09 AM   #4
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1200 lbs seems like a stretch. Our 312bhds advertised 985 tongue weight but loaded it is actually about 935.
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Old 09-12-2016, 01:07 PM   #5
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That is a really good price if it is in fact in the condition described. We love ours.

Like others have said towing it is another issue. I tow ours with a Ford Excursion with modified suspension. It is well within it's limits, but this is a lot of camper. I use a Reese Dual Cam, but I still have some tweaking to do on the hitch setup because at times it still gets twitchy. 37' and near 10,000# is just a lot of camper for a 1/2 ton. Just my opinion.
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Take it to the CAT scales and I will bet it needs some weight shifted to the front axle if it is twitchy up front in gusts or in general. Our 312BHDS came in at 9080 loaded but we were about 300 lbs heavy on the rear axle initially and went up three notches on the L brackets. Twitchy and a bit of wandering describes how a light front was. It is relaxing to tow now.

It is well worth the $10.50. Reweighs are free or $2 each depending on the CAT station. I think I weighed the trailer/truck five times and the truck alone once when we setup it up initially. There is nothing to it.
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Buy or Not: 2014 Freedom Liberty Express 320BHDS

I decided against this purchase and the RV has since sold. I truly appreciate everyone's response and willingness to share experiences!

I've been scouring these forums, reading varied opinions regarding towing capacity. Many with half ton trucks are pulling 9,000 lb + RVs, some bragging about being able to do so. Being able to tow it does not mean it is safe to tow it. Dodge rates my Ram 1500 Quad Cab at 10,000 lbs. towing capacity. That does not mean I can hitch up a 9k pound RV and take off!

Determining safe towing capacity on a vehicle can be confusing. I finally found an easy, reliable formula to determine SAFE towing capacity - "Polk's Rule". Using his formula, I determined it was not safe for me to pull the Liberty Freedom 320BHDS, even though my 1/2 ton Hemi equipped truck is at the top in its class for torque, power and towing capacity. According to Polk's Formula, I can safely tow a dry weight of under 7,000 lbs. That leaves plenty of room for storage, passengers, etc. without having to worry about exceeding the capacity. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 09-12-2016, 05:53 PM   #8
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I always recommend the truck manufacturers requirements. It is safe to stay within those. There are vast differences and 1/2 ton trucks should not be lumped together in generalities (because they are normally incorrect). Configuration options can make large differences as well. Some F150s with HD and max tow options surpass F250s depending on how they are configured. Take each inidivdually configured truck and RVs and looks at he specifics only. Ignore specific recommendations on this forum unless they have identical equipment and configurations which very rarely happens. Too many folks meaning well are bad experts.
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There is no one formula fits all solution. Our situations are all different. As long as you understand your weights and capacities you can tow anything that falls within your limits. 2 different people with the same exact truck will be capable of pulling different size trailers based upon how much extra weight they put in the trailer and truck. A single person traveling alone can pull a heavier trailer than a family of 4.
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