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10-27-2014, 09:33 AM
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Buyer Beware Apex 300BHS
We bought our 2015 Apex 300BHS 1 month ago. We took one trip the weekend of Columbus Day. Was very cold each night so the furnace was use a lot. 1st night, absolutely no heat getting into BH, despite two vents in there. Took to dealer on way home. After 3 weeks, found out there Apex not only doesn't install heat to BH but no AC either even though there are both side vents for heat and ceiling vents for AC back there. This means that the entire 30 ft interior length must be heated by 3 vents, yes only 3 vents. Stupidest engineering design I've ever heard in my life.
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10-27-2014, 03:22 PM
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Wow, that's pathetic. So they have vents there to make you think you have forced air, but they don't even hook them up?
Wow, just, wow.
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10-27-2014, 03:37 PM
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The placement of the heat vents on our 288bhs is kinda dumb also, master bed has one under feet area with a smaller diameter hose. Table miunted to floor crooked, lack of caulking outside. Good thing i can repair almost anything!
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10-27-2014, 03:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wharfrat
We bought our 2015 Apex 300BHS 1 month ago. We took one trip the weekend of Columbus Day. Was very cold each night so the furnace was use a lot. 1st night, absolutely no heat getting into BH, despite two vents in there. Took to dealer on way home. After 3 weeks, found out there Apex not only doesn't install heat to BH but no AC either even though there are both side vents for heat and ceiling vents for AC back there. This means that the entire 30 ft interior length must be heated by 3 vents, yes only 3 vents. Stupidest engineering design I've ever heard in my life.
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Someone is pulling your chain.
If there's vents in the bunkhouse they should work.
There's most likely a duct unhooked.
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10-27-2014, 04:31 PM
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X2 duct not hooked up
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10-27-2014, 04:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mud yapster
X2 duct not hooked up
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If ducts aren't hooked up,then shouldn't heat be felt in basement compartments,etc.?
If in fact there are ducts.
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10-27-2014, 04:58 PM
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No sure on your rig set up my compartment has a heating duct in it. The factory could have just forgotten to install the duct to you vents completely
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10-27-2014, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B47
If ducts aren't hooked up,then shouldn't heat be felt in basement compartments,etc.?
If in fact there are ducts.
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Unless it's a fifth wheel it has no basement.
All cubbies are above the main floor.
He'd have heat going to the under belly.
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10-27-2014, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Unless it's a fifth wheel it has no basement.
All cubbies are above the main floor.
He'd have heat going to the under belly.
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True - I don't know his model type or layout,that's why I put "etc.".
Regardless IF there are ducts that aren't hooked up to registers or vents,then he should feel heat somewhere.
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10-27-2014, 05:57 PM
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I would try to contact someone at the factory to clarify this. Something sounds off here and I think it's the mushroom fodder er I mean info your dealership is feeding you.
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10-27-2014, 06:08 PM
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I think your dealer is just flat out wrong or lazy... Or both. They wouldnt install all those vents just for show... My 288BHS has 5 (or 6) ceiling vents for a/c and they all blow cold air... Even the one in the bunkhouse.
Id suggest a second opinion.
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10-28-2014, 11:29 AM
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Thanks guys. I did call Kevin at Apex yesterday and had a good conversation with him. Truth is that there is no duct work to BH due to some code with regards to the I-beam. The fourth duct coming off the furnace actually heats the water tank instead of an electric heating pad on some models. The two vertical vents in the BH are for venting the outside fridge but use the same brown vent covers so anyone, including a dealer would assume they were for heat. Thankfully I do have AC to the BH so that myth was squashed. Sounds like a design issue they are aware of but still pretty stupid that 30 feet of interior length is heated by 3 vents with two of them mounted on the dinette. guess we won't be closing the door to the BH on cold nights.
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10-28-2014, 11:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wharfrat
Thanks guys. I did call Kevin at Apex yesterday and had a good conversation with him. Truth is that there is no duct work to BH due to some code with regards to the I-beam. The fourth duct coming off the furnace actually heats the water tank instead of an electric heating pad on some models. The two vertical vents in the BH are for venting the outside fridge but use the same brown vent covers so anyone, including a dealer would assume they were for heat. Thankfully I do have AC to the BH so that myth was squashed. Sounds like a design issue they are aware of but still pretty stupid that 30 feet of interior length is heated by 3 vents with two of them mounted on the dinette. guess we won't be closing the door to the BH on cold nights.
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We don't close our bunk house door or actually "cant" as it gets WAY to hot in there!
I'll send a little heat your way![emoji12]
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10-28-2014, 09:23 PM
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Location: Pittsburgh,PA
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We have a freedom express 310BHDS and it does not have heat in the bunkhouse. There is one right by the door . so we use a ceramic heater and it works great. It on a very low setting and the kids say its too hot.
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11-13-2014, 09:46 PM
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The furnace in our 320 is in the wall between the kitchen and bunkroom with a direct vent to the bunk room. The bunk room gets pretty warm. The front bedroom is furthest and probably gets the least heat. Amazing that they don't have some way to duct heat into the bunk room.
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