Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-15-2016, 06:26 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 36
Freedom Express Poor Workmanship

We just picked up our new 2016 Freedom Express 257BHS not too long ago and although it seems nice, upon digging deeper into our unit, we found signs of poor workmanship.

How much longer would it take to properly drill a hole through wood and not punch through the back of it so it fractures like in these pictures of the boards under the cushions for the dinette set? I can only imagine other holes that are hidden that are this way that I haven't discovered yet.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3110.jpg
Views:	150
Size:	238.5 KB
ID:	105030   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_3111.jpg
Views:	155
Size:	275.4 KB
ID:	105031  
__________________

__________________
Bangback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2016, 07:32 AM   #2
Member
 
phillips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 95
What exactly is this picture of?

Sent from my GT-P5113 using Tapatalk
__________________

__________________
current TV-2016 F-150 3.5 Ecoboost Max Tow
current TT-2016 Apex 300BHS
Reese Dual Cam WDH
phillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2016, 07:32 AM   #3
Member
 
phillips's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 95
Nvr mind lol...I read it again

Sent from my GT-P5113 using Tapatalk
__________________
current TV-2016 F-150 3.5 Ecoboost Max Tow
current TT-2016 Apex 300BHS
Reese Dual Cam WDH
phillips is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2016, 11:32 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by phillips View Post
Nvr mind lol...I read it again

Sent from my GT-P5113 using Tapatalk
I can understand the mentality that "who cares if the customer can't see it", but my finger can sure feel the splinters as I put it through the hole to try to use it...
__________________
Bangback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2016, 03:35 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
CaptnJohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 2,710
looks like they used a hole saw as they should, but pushed it instead of allowing it to cut through at the end. 1/4" needs care
__________________
2017 Montana HC 370BR
2016 F350 diesel
Edgewater 205 EX 150 Yamaha
CaptnJohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-17-2016, 08:16 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptnJohn View Post
looks like they used a hole saw as they should, but pushed it instead of allowing it to cut through at the end. 1/4" needs care
Luckily it's an easy enough fix. Push the plastic circle out, trim the edges of the splinters, then put some wood glue down and press it back in place.
__________________
Bangback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2016, 10:33 AM   #7
Member
 
jason_sos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 44
Mine were exactly the same. They are forcing the bit through the wood, and it's probably drilled hundreds of holes and is probably dull at this point too. It's all because they are being rushed down the line, which is unfortunate.

Be prepared to find other things like this too. Trim that doesn't line up right, gaps in woodwork, scratches, lazy wiring like my coax that was just thrown into the rear compartment and not stapled... It goes on.

It's not specifically a Coachmen, Forest River, or any other brand issue - it's across the industry. I think it should be better, but it's unlikely to happen, so I just chalk it up to little projects to keep me busy. This weekend, I installed my Progressive Industries EMS, and while I was in the back compartment under the bunks, I cleaned up the remnants of wire, and stapled the coax to the bed supports so it didn't tangle with the outside shower or other items. I've also filled in missed nail holes, touched up scratches in the woodwork, etc.
__________________
jason_sos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2016, 11:00 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 36
Quote:
Originally Posted by jason_sos View Post
Mine were exactly the same. They are forcing the bit through the wood, and it's probably drilled hundreds of holes and is probably dull at this point too. It's all because they are being rushed down the line, which is unfortunate.

Be prepared to find other things like this too. Trim that doesn't line up right, gaps in woodwork, scratches, lazy wiring like my coax that was just thrown into the rear compartment and not stapled... It goes on.

It's not specifically a Coachmen, Forest River, or any other brand issue - it's across the industry. I think it should be better, but it's unlikely to happen, so I just chalk it up to little projects to keep me busy. This weekend, I installed my Progressive Industries EMS, and while I was in the back compartment under the bunks, I cleaned up the remnants of wire, and stapled the coax to the bed supports so it didn't tangle with the outside shower or other items. I've also filled in missed nail holes, touched up scratches in the woodwork, etc.
Thanks for the tips. I'll have to check out everything that's hidden that I can access. I still haven't dewinterized my unit yet, as it was still getting below 32F at night here in NY the last couple of days. I think I will want to keep a close eye on my plumbing as I begin to pressurize it for the first time. I'm hoping the poor cosmetic workmanship in hidden areas doesn't apply to plumbing, as I'd hate to have a leak!
__________________
Bangback is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2016, 11:34 AM   #9
Some guy in back...
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 201
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangback View Post
Thanks for the tips. I'll have to check out everything that's hidden that I can access. I still haven't dewinterized my unit yet, as it was still getting below 32F at night here in NY the last couple of days. I think I will want to keep a close eye on my plumbing as I begin to pressurize it for the first time. I'm hoping the poor cosmetic workmanship in hidden areas doesn't apply to plumbing, as I'd hate to have a leak!
We live in California and have purchased all our rigs here or in Nevada. I've never winterized an RV before, so I am asking in ignorance: How can you buy a rig and say "a close eye on my plumbing as I begin to pressurize it for the first time."? Does that mean the dealer never ran any of the plumbing? Do you all buy frozen rigs off a lot and wait until Spring so see if they work correctly????

To paraphrase Woody Allen..."Maybe being able to turn right on a red light isn't the only cultural advantage to living in California..."

Cheers
__________________
ChateauV10
SF Bay Area
'99 Ford E350 V10
'16 Rockwood 8329SS
ChateauV10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2016, 11:36 AM   #10
Member
 
jason_sos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangback View Post
Thanks for the tips. I'll have to check out everything that's hidden that I can access. I still haven't dewinterized my unit yet, as it was still getting below 32F at night here in NY the last couple of days. I think I will want to keep a close eye on my plumbing as I begin to pressurize it for the first time. I'm hoping the poor cosmetic workmanship in hidden areas doesn't apply to plumbing, as I'd hate to have a leak!
I haven't dewinterized my new unit for the first time either, but my friend warned me to check all connections before pressurizing the water. The hidden connections should be fine, as they are all crimp PEX connectors, but definitely check the screw on connectors at the sinks, toilet, etc. I'm not familiar with your particular unit, but on mine (282BHDS), the water heater is accessible by removing the mattress and boards on the lower bunk. That's where my power and cable TV enter as well.
__________________

__________________
jason_sos is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
freedom express

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




ForestRiverForums.com is not in any way associated with Forest River, Inc. or its associated RV manufacturing divisions.


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:05 PM.