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Old 12-08-2015, 09:22 PM   #1
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Recently I asked if anyone on here had a 2010 Catalina 29RKS. Just thought I would explain why I asked. I have a 2010 Catalina 29RLS which is very close to being the same weight and dimensions as a RKS. My trailer is in the shop having the axles,springs and tires replaced for the second time since it was new. First time was 3 years ago when the trailer was 3 years old. My trailer has a stated weight of 6234# from the factory. Add to that battery, propane and spare and it is about 6380# with no gear. It came with 3500# axles and springs and c rated tires. When the axles and springs failed the first time I thought it was a fluke but now 3 years later, I'm replacing them again. Not a fluke. I wanted to know about the RKS because my sales brochure shows it weighs a few pounds more than my trailer but can carry 1200# more. I have since located a dealer who has a RKS for sale and he says it has 5000# springs. I have contacted Coachmen about how unhappy I am about the situation and basically got no where. Rep said he had arranged for Lippert to sell me some new axles for a discount. Gee, thanks. This is the third Catalina we have owned and it will be the last! Forest River will never again see a dime from me nor anyone I can influence! Sorry so long but frustration is really getting to me.
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:23 AM   #2
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Old 12-09-2015, 11:49 AM   #3
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Tongue weight is right at 1000# loaded and ready to camp. I have weighed the trailer several times both loaded and empty. I have decided, especially after finding out that the RKS has 5000# axles and springs, that Forest River felt that the safety of my family wasn't worth the few dollars the correct axles and springs would have cost them. When the repairs are finished this time I will have spent over $6000 replacing axles,springs and tires total between both times.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:02 PM   #4
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Odds of getting that money back selling out right or trading in are going to be slim to none. Hopefully this is the last time for repairs. If it looks like they are failing after this fix I would consider getting rid of it and taking the loss. Thats a lot of money in repairs for the same thing.. Sorry about your issues...
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:13 PM   #5
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This time I am having 5200# axles with 4400# springs installed. Also going to D rated Maxxis tires. Yeah without a doubt a lose that can never be recovered or even justified. Just into this too far to turn back now. I thought that contacting Forest River and explaining the situation might do some good but just like when they sold it, they really couldn't care. Thanks for your concern.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:58 PM   #6
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Recently I asked if anyone on here had a 2010 Catalina 29RKS. Just thought I would explain why I asked.
The site team just went ahead and deleted this previous post you are referring to. In essence, you would have two threads opened about the same situation. Since there were no replies in the other one, instead of combining it with this one that has replies, we just deleted it.
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Old 12-09-2015, 12:58 PM   #7
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I guess I'm not seeing it.
6380 no gear.
3500# per axle X2 7000 lbs
700 lb hitch weight empty.

What did I miss?

Gvwr is 7700# it looks to me like about
1400# of ccc
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Old 12-09-2015, 02:13 PM   #8
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I guess I'm not seeing it.
6380 no gear.
3500# per axle X2 7000 lbs
700 lb hitch weight empty.

What did I miss?

Gvwr is 7700# it looks to me like about
1400# of ccc
I'm not understanding either....
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:38 PM   #9
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I guess if the trailer is parked then the numbers are just fine. I bought the trailer because it was a travel trailer not a park trailer. I really do not know any other way to explain why 2 sets of springs and axles would last only 3 years each, other than they are basically too light to handle the shocks and dips of the road. And before anyone asks, I don't run over curbs, boulders or any other item. We have traveled 38000 miles with this trailer since new in 2010. So it does have a few miles on it but the truck I pull it with still has the same axles and springs on it.haha
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:43 PM   #10
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Forest river doesn't make the axles nor springs, they just spec a number.
By specs the axles and springs are right on.
You really can't blame fr for this.
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:05 PM   #11
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I know that Lippert made the axles and springs. But Lippert also makes the axles and springs that are on the near identical RKS and Forest River spec'd that trailer to have 5000# axles and springs...so I feel that I can in fact blame Forest River. The carrying capacity on that trailer is 2900#. The brochure lists the empty weight for the RKS at 30# more that what the tag on my trailer says it weighs empty. I think part of the problem stems from the fact that when I ordered my trailer it was suppose to weigh 5985#. When it was delivered it weighed 6234#. Maybe Forest River didn't allow for the increase in empty weight.
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:17 PM   #12
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Keep in mind the trailer as a whole is engineered to a spec.
Just because the other unit has 5k springs in it doesn't mean yours should.
I bet the frame is also heavier / bigger .
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Old 12-09-2015, 04:29 PM   #13
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I have no way to check the frame but was told by FR the last time this happened that the RKS is built on the same frame. I only was trying to find someone who had one to see try to understand why the ccc was so much greater than my trailer.
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If you lived in any of the North Eastern States, I could understand why they didn't last. The further north you go, the worse the roads!
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Old 12-09-2015, 06:02 PM   #15
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I live in Ohio but have camped in most of US states. And yes the roads your way as well as northern Michigan are hard on any thing that travels on them.
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I guess I'm not seeing it.
6380 no gear.
3500# per axle X2 7000 lbs
700 lb hitch weight empty.

What did I miss?

Gvwr is 7700# it looks to me like about
1400# of ccc
Those are just about my numbers on our Weekend Warrior. Axles are holding up barely but been through an unusual number wheel bearings and those C tires blew twice, with thank God reasonably light damage. The Carlisle E's are really holding up but 3500 lb axles on a 25 foot body is just too light
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Do to any number of reasons just about everything is engineered to close specs with little to no wiggle room..... The axles look to be correct but I wonder if there is any accounting for the poor road conditions just about everywhere??



Our fifth wheel has two six thousand pound axles the pin weight is about 2500 lbs and the stated max trailer capacity is 14500......... that would be at the limit hopefully there is a safety factor built in but I would not want to push the max. capacity.......

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Old 12-10-2015, 11:04 AM   #18
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Im not saying you dont have a problem but by the numbers it seems within spec. If you are running near max and running that all the time then fatigue and strain will run its course causing failure. Just like everything else if you run it at max.
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Old 12-11-2015, 05:22 PM   #20
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I think part of the problem stems from the fact that when I ordered my trailer it was suppose to weigh 5985#. When it was delivered it weighed 6234#. Maybe Forest River didn't allow for the increase in empty weight.
That brochure weight is always low under the disclaimer it doesn't include options and a few other exclusions. Makes a trailer look lighter/easier to tow than it really is & makes the ccc look higher. But that issue isn't unique to your model. What does your factory sticker say the GVWR of the trailer is? And if you have a scale weight loaded for camping what was that?

There are some threads on here with this type of issue for heavy 5ers where the frames/axles/suspension have issues, but seems less common on travel trailers. What exactly was the failure on the 2 previous sets of axles & springs?
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