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Old 03-04-2014, 10:09 AM   #11
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here is a link to the Jensen model that is in my trailer, might be different as yours is newer:
JENSEN AM/FM/CD/DVD/MP3/USB Wallmount Stereo

the listed power is 6 watts...that's pretty sad.

The indoor speakers are these:
JENSEN Surface-Mount Theater Speaker

They are rated at 20 watt max with 84 db sensitivity...again, pretty sad.

the outdoor speakers are not listed on their website anymore.
The next unit up from mine is here:JENSEN AM/FM/CD/DVD/USB/WB/iPOD Ready Wallmount Stereo with HDMI Video Output

It lists 22.5x4 output, but is 6 channel, so not real sure how that works.

The problem with these units is the footprint. They are a hybrid between a 12v car stereo and DVD entertainment system. You don't that much power draw if you boondock, or just like to listen to music while you work on the trailer in your driveway. However you want nice sound. Those two things are somewhat exclusive of each other.

As for speakers, something like this surface mount speaker would work with our trailers, though it is pretty large.
Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-X150 Surface Mount 3-Way Speakers: Car Electronics

The problem is where to try and cut in 5.5 or 6.5 inch speakers. You would lose the over couch cabinet storage, but might be worth it.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:50 PM   #12
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here is a link to the Jensen model that is in my trailer, might be different as yours is newer:
JENSEN AM/FM/CD/DVD/MP3/USB Wallmount Stereo

the listed power is 6 watts...that's pretty sad.

The indoor speakers are these:
JENSEN Surface-Mount Theater Speaker

They are rated at 20 watt max with 84 db sensitivity...again, pretty sad.

the outdoor speakers are not listed on their website anymore.
The next unit up from mine is here:JENSEN AM/FM/CD/DVD/USB/WB/iPOD Ready Wallmount Stereo with HDMI Video Output

It lists 22.5x4 output, but is 6 channel, so not real sure how that works.

The problem with these units is the footprint. They are a hybrid between a 12v car stereo and DVD entertainment system. You don't that much power draw if you boondock, or just like to listen to music while you work on the trailer in your driveway. However you want nice sound. Those two things are somewhat exclusive of each other.

As for speakers, something like this surface mount speaker would work with our trailers, though it is pretty large.
Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-X150 Surface Mount 3-Way Speakers: Car Electronics

The problem is where to try and cut in 5.5 or 6.5 inch speakers. You would lose the over couch cabinet storage, but might be worth it.
The head unit in definitely not a Jensen. Mine is something else that I've never heard of. The speakers look just like yours....not sure if they are Jensen but look just like that.

I looked at those Pioneer speakers as well and had the same thoughts as you regarding the cutting and loss of space....That is why I am leaning toward a Bazooka or something similar first to see how it sounds and go from there. I may just use my Bose SoundLink instead and forget about it.
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Old 03-04-2014, 12:54 PM   #13
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I have a Magnadyne AV5090 head unit
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:53 PM   #14
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The piece of junk that came with mine just died and I'm thinking of replacing it with a Harman Kardon AVR 1510. Of course, I'll need speakers, too. I'm not sure what I'll get.
Joe...that is an excellent choice in receivers...but note that you can draw up to 34 AMPS of current when playing...vs. the 4-6 of most car stereo systems so take that into consideration if you boondock!
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@Tom...the Magnadyne ain't so bad... and you certainly won't get a sound improvment by replacing it. Your speakers I think are not even 4" if they are like the Jensens and there is your real problem.
Your Magnadyne is capable of driving 3 PAIR of speakers...do you have 3 pair now? Don't believe any of the wattage claims you may see...they are all bogus... you probably have around 8 watts going to each speaker...max.
Speakers that size have NO usable output below about 150 HZ so you are missing several octaves in the bass range and at least an octave in the high treble as well so it is no wonder you are unhappy.
Assuming that you want to avoid cutting any holes...I would suggest getting a decent pair of efficient small bookshelf speakers for your MAIN listening position and wire them to speaker A position on the radio...you can choose B or C speakers for the other 2 pair you may have left but be aware that the speaker C position has much lower wattage so should be used with the speakers you don't often want to play loudly. What I'm thinking of is something like the Polk Atrium 4's

These run about $140 bucks a pair on Amazon...

As to subwoofers...you may find you need one less after installing a decent bookshelf sized speaker...but the radio has a set of AV output jacks and you can use those to send audio (unamplified) to any subwoofer you choose with a set of RCA cables to the red & white jacks. You might wanna consider a compact HOME subwoofer to plug into a wall socket or small inverter. Like this Yamaha YST-FSW050BL2.

super deal for $115 on amazon right now.


This would give you less wiring to do and also give you easier on/off access. Alternatively in the hookup...you can come off your headphone jack with an extension cable terminating in a couple of RCA plugs...and unplug when you aren't using it...but that would be a bit messier.
Hope this helps a bit.
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Old 03-04-2014, 03:32 PM   #16
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my reply disappeared on me, but camaraderie hit it on the head. that Magandyne looks to be on par with the upper model Jenson, so nothing wrong with it.

I like the idea of some decent bookshelf style speakers. Hopefully they would not be too obtrusive.
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@Tom...the Magnadyne ain't so bad... and you certainly won't get a sound improvment by replacing it. Your speakers I think are not even 4" if they are like the Jensens and there is your real problem.
Your Magnadyne is capable of driving 3 PAIR of speakers...do you have 3 pair now? Don't believe any of the wattage claims you may see...they are all bogus... you probably have around 8 watts going to each speaker...max.
Speakers that size have NO usable output below about 150 HZ so you are missing several octaves in the bass range and at least an octave in the high treble as well so it is no wonder you are unhappy.
Assuming that you want to avoid cutting any holes...I would suggest getting a decent pair of efficient small bookshelf speakers for your MAIN listening position and wire them to speaker A position on the radio...you can choose B or C speakers for the other 2 pair you may have left but be aware that the speaker C position has much lower wattage so should be used with the speakers you don't often want to play loudly. What I'm thinking of is something like the Polk Atrium 4's

These run about $140 bucks a pair on Amazon...

As to subwoofers...you may find you need one less after installing a decent bookshelf sized speaker...but the radio has a set of AV output jacks and you can use those to send audio (unamplified) to any subwoofer you choose with a set of RCA cables to the red & white jacks. You might wanna consider a compact HOME subwoofer to plug into a wall socket or small inverter. Like this Yamaha YST-FSW050BL2.

super deal for $115 on amazon right now.


This would give you less wiring to do and also give you easier on/off access. Alternatively in the hookup...you can come off your headphone jack with an extension cable terminating in a couple of RCA plugs...and unplug when you aren't using it...but that would be a bit messier.
Hope this helps a bit.
Thanks for the insight!

Exactly the type of helpful information I was hoping for. I'll be ordering some of those speakers tonight.
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Old 03-04-2014, 07:58 PM   #18
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My modification to our 2011 Flagstaff 8528RKS Fithwheel. My wife was horrified when she saw me heading out with a sawall and some other tools in hand. It was time to upgrade the sound system. The zx700 was and still is a good unit but I was looking for more and better fidelity. So destruction the reconstruction was started. This is the finished product.

Before:



After:


Base was tight but a little plumbing and it slid in.



I started with the ZX700. I relocated the ZX700 to the right of where it was as well as the Satellite receiver. I then rebuilt the cherry shelf's to accommodate the new electronics. This is what equipment was added:
Onkyo TXDS474 Receiver
Cambridge Soundworks M50 Main Speakers
Cambridge Soundworks Base Cube 8
Cambridge Soundworks MC300 Center Speaker
Polk RC6s rear Surround Sound Speakers
Philips DVP3040 DVD player
OSD Audio SSVC4 Speaker Control

With the OSD Speaker control I was able to have 2 inputs selection (zx700 or the Onkyo receiver) to the speakers. The control is great as it has impedance matching and volume control for the main speakers, bedroom speakers and the outside speakers. This was a large improvement to the stock system. It was a challenge to find component to match the quality I was seeking and the space constraints they would be installed in. I have enjoyed Cambridge Sound Systems at home so thought I should try to keep what I was familiar with in the camper. All of the components were purchased from Craigslist used with the exception of the OSD Audion Control. I could not find a used one and was forced to pay full price(I hate that!) I have also purchased a pair of outside speakers that I will replace once it gets a little warmer outside. To cap off the system I have purchased a Logitech Harmony 650 remote. This is the remote we use in our house and I find it a very easy remote to operate and it worked with all the equipment including the ZX700. The outside speakers have a few mounting challenges. I used a cutting board cut in half to cover the existing holes on the outside.


With them aimed down we get great sound and it does not travel far from the camper.
We really love the sound that this system produces.
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Very nice setup. Probably more than I am comfortable doing myself. How did you attach the cutting boards?
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I used 1/4 20 stainless bolts. The ended up inside overhead cabinets on the inside. Sealed it up with white caulk. One note for you, I can run the Z700 with the new speakers. There is a big positive difference in the sound quality. There is a definite lack of power but the sound is much better. With the Onkyo on much better base responce.
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