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Old 12-20-2013, 10:57 AM   #61
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I wonder how much is forgotten from the end of one day till the start of the next or if another person picks up from where someone finished.

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Old 12-20-2013, 11:17 AM   #62
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That would be really really really expensive. I mean, you're talking about roughly an hour to go through a checklist of things to make sure the quality is what you expect it to be. Based on the idea of a person making $50k, which might even be a tad high for a line worker, that's a whole $24 the company would have had to pay for an hour of work. Seems as if that's a tad too much for FR to be able to pay to assure quality of their product.
I don't know how extensively they check things at the factory, but the dealer does have a checklist and an obligation to test everything prior to the customer leaving the lot. It's not OK for defects to get out the plant, but the dealer inspection is supposed to be a final check to catch something like that. I know when picked up ours, I could see under the FW tank where they had drained it after de-winterizing and filling the water system to test it.

And, I would totally agree the factory could be neater / more thorough in their process, but they need to get it right the first time. Paying for after the fact inspection & re-work is too costly. No U.S. manufacturer can operate using $24 as a cost for an hour of work. Benefits (healthcare), payroll taxes, overhead, administration costs - its crazy what an hour of work actually costs. $50 to $60 is a pretty typical break-even for hourly labor when the person is making $15-$17 per hour. Its even worse with repair shops. They charge $75 to $100 an hour for a reason (and yes, that includes profit but it is not purely trying to rip people off - at least most of the time...)


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Old 12-21-2013, 06:27 AM   #63
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Those numbers are very realistic for payroll. I used to have 65 union journeymen and apprentices, plus the office and sales staff. It's not a pretty picture... I miss it like a hole in the head, so I can only imagine what it's like for RV makers.

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