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Old 09-04-2012, 06:02 AM   #11
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Before you get to upset, I agree with Hoo Dad and Herk's comments. Also they make a chemical that will clean and break up the pancake if someone before you did not do any maintenance on the system. I remember when we started to use full hook-ups, I said great I can just leave all my gray and black water open while camping. Well I learned you DO NOT LEAVE YOUR BLACK TANK OPEN. After about 2 weeks in hot Florida I could not understand why my black water tank was full. I called a mobile RV repair person. As soon as I told him what happened he told me that the only thing that will run out would be the liquid and the waste would stay in and turn to concrete. He suggested that product to use, it is sold at all RV stores I put it in and it took about 24 hrs to work. I still had to use a snake to break it up by the valve area. It was lesson I did not want to learn. He also stated if that did not work my only option would be to replace my tank. Let's hope for the best with you and it only a false reading...
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:47 AM   #12
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I use RV-Digest-It (but have used Rid-Ex in an emergency to help a fellow camper) to dissolve dried crud.

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dump 1/2 bottle in the black tank and fill it slowly.
wait 72 hours or up to a week then flush for as long as it takes to clear the clogs.

If it is really bad you may need to redo it with the other 1/2 bottle, but if it works then repeat on the gray tank to get rid of the grease in there.

As to the probes, this same treatment will clean your probes.
A FULL indication means there is less than 188K Ohms of resistance between any probe and the ground probe. (IE more current flow)

Sludge across the bottom probes (ground and 1/3 full) WILL indicate FULL.
It does not take much sludge to do that.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:06 AM   #13
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If it's not too far to the dealer I'd just call him and say " I'm coming in so you can empty the tank, it seems you forgot to do this, you should instruct your employee's to do this all the time on a used trailer." All in one breath.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:14 AM   #14
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May I ask how you determined the black tank has never been emptied? If you are using the level indicator light as your guide, then keep in mind that it is normally not very accurate. Hope this is the case. Good luck.
I agree....the tank may be empty and the indicators are just showing full.....my monitor shows full sometimes when the tank is empty. The easy way to tell is to shut your water off, get a flashlight, open the toilet valve, and look into the tank. Even if you see liquid, it might just be a little at the bottom of the tank....some tanks are hard to get completely empty. Judge the depth by comparing the liquid level with the bottom of the toilet pipe. These tanks are only about 6" or so deep, so if you have that much distance between the toilet pipe and the liquid level, you tank might be as close to empty as practical.
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Old 09-04-2012, 08:49 AM   #15
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We purchased a 'new' TT recently. We knew the dealer had used it a couple times for a rental, which didn't bother us, as it was pristine on the inside, but when we took it out and flushed the toilet for the first time, there was a bit of odor coming back at us - not bad, but definately 'there', which we had never had with our previous TT.

I think they did dump the tank, as the sensor showed "'E" but I know they sure didn't clean it. Just laziness as it has the black tank cleaner hookup on there - I mean how much time does it take to hook up the tank cleaner and let it run for a few minutes while they were doing the other clean/prep on the unit?

We ran the tank cleaner probably a good 20-25 minutes before all the chunky stuff stopped coming out and the water was clear (GET A CLEAR CONNECTOR SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN THE WATER IS CLEAR!). Went inside and did the smell test (turn on the fan in the bathroom and flush, holding open the toilet seal for a few seconds) and no odor at all so no permanent harm, but still unexpected that this wasn't done already before we took delivery. Seems like a simple thing to do...
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:13 AM   #16
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Thank you all for your comments! This site is great especially for a newbie like myself! I have camped since I was very small but have never had a camper all to myself! Been tenting most recently...these kind of things dont happen with a tent!
The gauge in the bathroom was showing the tank as full. Originally I thought it was a mis-reading and the gauge could be wrong. (certainly, a dealer would not let a camper go with a full toilet!)
We thought only water should come out and intended to drain it before traveling the weekend. What came out was NOT only water!
So from what I am hearing here....it may not be full and may only be residual at the bottom of tank...which still should have been flushed very well but probably was not....and that my best bet is to toss in some water and treatment solution this week to help break things up so when we get there, we can empty out.....sound like a good plan? I still think the dealer should have fully cleaned and flushed the thing out before ever sending it out to to a customer!
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Old 09-04-2012, 10:20 AM   #17
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I still think the dealer should have fully cleaned and flushed the thing out before ever sending it out to to a customer!
Yes they should have... It has to make you wonder what else didn't they do? I would still call the dealer and let them know...
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I still think the dealer should have fully cleaned and flushed the thing out before ever sending it out to to a customer!
Agreed.
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One last suggestion any time one suspects solid desbris in the black tank. On the way to serviced campground we put 2 - 3 gallons of water and a couple of bags of ice cubes in the balck tank for the ride to the campground...the sloshing around can really help. The superlight trailers have some very shallow, very wide tanks...hard to flush etc.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:36 PM   #20
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Thank you again. We flushed it very well when we got to the campground and believe me, it was full! If I were that dealer I would be embarassed to have sent something out like that. There goes his chance of ever having me recommend him! The black tank is still reading as full but I intend to flush it out again very well before I close her up for the winter.
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