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Old 11-05-2018, 08:30 AM   #1
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Bad water pump already???

So i bought our Arctic Wolf home from storage this weekend to winterize it.
I leveled out the camper in the driveway, added 6 gallons of pink stuff to the empty water tank and flipped the pump on. The pump turns on and it's building up pressure in the lines, but there's no pink stuff coming out...just air.

The pump is a Shurflo 4008-101-A65.


If i close all the faucets, the pump just keeps running and running. If i open any faucet, air rushes out but no liquid ever comes out. I pulled the filter off the pump and it looks brand new. If i pull the inlet hose off and put my thumb over it, it sucks but not as hard as i would have thought for a ~3gpm pump. Same goes for the outlet side, doesn't push as hard as i would have expected. I can easily blow air into the hose that goes to the water tank, so i don't think that's obstructed. Plus if i give it a few good puffs and stop, i can smell the scent of the pink stuff coming up the hose. I also pulled the pump apart and i dont see any leaks, cracks, etc in anything.

Camper is only 2 years old and i can count on 1 hand how many times we use the water tank.

Any ideas?

This is an arctic wolf, so it has a sealed underbelly. So i can't see anything beyond the hose where it goes into the pump. If i want to see the tank, i would have to pull the underbelly off
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:31 AM   #2
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FYI, the water heater has been diverted off line.
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:41 AM   #3
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You should never pour antifreeze in the freshwater tank, always draw from the jug straight into the system. This way the af won't get diluted with water, you won't have a hard time in the spring flushing the af from the tank to get rid of the smell and you probably only need 1 gallon instead of 20 because now your pump is sucking air as there is not enough af in the tank.
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:43 AM   #4
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So i bought our Arctic Wolf home from storage this weekend to winterize it.
I leveled out the camper in the driveway, added 6 gallons of pink stuff to the empty water tank and flipped the pump on. The pump turns on and it's building up pressure in the lines, but there's no pink stuff coming out...just air.

The pump is a Shurflo 4008-101-A65.


If i close all the faucets, the pump just keeps running and running. If i open any faucet, air rushes out but no liquid ever comes out. I pulled the filter off the pump and it looks brand new. If i pull the inlet hose off and put my thumb over it, it sucks but not as hard as i would have thought for a ~3gpm pump. Same goes for the outlet side, doesn't push as hard as i would have expected. I can easily blow air into the hose that goes to the water tank, so i don't think that's obstructed. Plus if i give it a few good puffs and stop, i can smell the scent of the pink stuff coming up the hose. I also pulled the pump apart and i dont see any leaks, cracks, etc in anything.

Camper is only 2 years old and i can count on 1 hand how many times we use the water tank.

Any ideas?

This is an arctic wolf, so it has a sealed underbelly. So i can't see anything beyond the hose where it goes into the pump. If i want to see the tank, i would have to pull the underbelly off
The pump is probably fine. 6 gallons may not be enough for the pump to pick up. Does your unit no have a winterizing kit installed on the pump? No need to put antifreeze in the FW tank with the kit installed. No need to sanitize the tank in the spring. The kit is a t-fitting at the pump with a valve and a 2' hose.
Only 2 gallons needed using this system. Drain your antifreeze out and save it. fill your tank and see if the pump works.
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:45 AM   #5
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Adding Pink to FW tank is NOT the way to Winterize! Your pickup for FW is located higher than 6 gallon! Direct pump at water pump where you felt suction!
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:48 AM   #6
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Nothing wrong with your water pump. There is not enough liquid in the FW tank.

Check the library section of the forum. Under plumbing is a guide to winterizing. Using the FW tank to winterize is not recommended as it wastes gallons of antifreeze and is very difficult to remove in the spring. You should only need 2-3 gallons max.
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Just pull from antifreeze bottle. I just did this and only used 3 gallons, a little less, including the washing machine lines. I never put any in the FW tank.
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:50 AM   #8
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No, our camper does not have this winterizing kit you speak of. The inlet hose goes from the pump and directly into the sealed underbelly and presumably the FW tank.

Last year i did this same method and didn't have any issues.

I guess i'll drain the FW tank and go purchase a hose so that i can bypass the FW tank and try that. Are those hoses available anywhere besides an RV dealer?
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Old 11-05-2018, 08:54 AM   #9
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Yes
Here

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Permane...interizing+kit
Or here
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Camco-Per...36543/33754537
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