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09-08-2015, 02:05 PM
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Brand New Trailer Brand New plugged toilet
So our 2016 Cherokee 274RK ..... looking down into the toilet I notice there is a plate about 3 inches below where I the toilet drains I can see a spot weld seam
Is this correct ? Should the toilet not drain directly down into the black tank without obstruction ? I had to basically stir a toilet paper backup on this lower plate....seems odd
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09-08-2015, 02:16 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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Bummer. Don't sound good. Later RJD 
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09-08-2015, 02:34 PM
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A pic would help!
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09-08-2015, 02:43 PM
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Location: Waterloo Region
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Yes - quite odd. The toilet on most TTs empties straight into the black tank because the BT is right against the underside of the floor between the frame rails and there is no vertical room for an offset run like in a 5er. If you can't see the bottom of the black tank through the throne, I would think that would be a problem.
Maybe the hole was not drilled through completely and the disc that should have been pulled out is now a flap still attached at one side. They arrive at assembly with no openings at all and all penetrations are made once installed in the unit.
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09-08-2015, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sameee
So our 2016 Cherokee 274RK ..... looking down into the toilet I notice there is a plate about 3 inches below where I the toilet drains I can see a spot weld seam
Is this correct ? Should the toilet not drain directly down into the black tank without obstruction ? I had to basically stir a toilet paper backup on this lower plate....seems odd
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Many installations use fittings such as 45 ells and short sections of pipe to direct flow a short distance to the tank. Ideally it's just below but not always, same problem. Best answer use plenty of flush water.
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09-09-2015, 12:20 PM
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Location: Virginia
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Our grey water valve wouldn't shut last outing, when I opened it up there was a "half circle" of abs from the hole saw stuck in the valve.
Bob
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09-09-2015, 12:24 PM
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does anyone live with a septic system at home? we rarely flush TP in the bowl, there is a wastebasket that accepts used TP and is dumped in the trash regularly... we do the same in the Shamrock toilet... saves lots of problems when dumping
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09-09-2015, 12:28 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
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You should be using RV TP which is about 1 ply and very dissolve able. Never have issues when using what is recommended. Later RJD
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2018 Dodge Ram 2500 6.4 3:73 gearing.(sold) (sold) 2015 Chevy 2500 6.0, 4:10
Traded 2015 30WRLIKS V-Lite
Days camped 2019 62
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09-09-2015, 12:29 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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My sabre does not go straight to the tank, it has Atleast two elbows.
We use plenty of water and have not ever had a black tank issue.
TURBS
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2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "27 nights"
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09-09-2015, 12:30 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Team
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Location: Iowa
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsdata
does anyone live with a septic system at home? we rarely flush TP in the bowl, there is a wastebasket that accepts used TP and is dumped in the trash regularly... we do the same in the Shamrock toilet... saves lots of problems when dumping
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I've had a septic at my current location for 13 years!
Toilet paper and all heads right to it!
it's been pumped once.
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "27 nights"
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09-09-2015, 12:31 PM
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We only use RV paper and sparingly .........guess this is nothing compared to the siding thats letting go ....on both sides
I will post a pic tomorrow
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09-09-2015, 12:33 PM
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most TP will dissolve quickly. To test it put some in a jar with water let it sit for a couple of minutes and then shake the jar. If the TP breaks apart you should be OK.
As far as putting the TP in a wast basket, I will stop camping before I will do this.
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09-09-2015, 12:33 PM
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yep. lots and lots of water is the trick.
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09-09-2015, 12:59 PM
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We've been rv'ing for 10 years and have always dropped the TP into the toilet with all the other goodies. We've never had a problem except in the beginning when nobody told us to keep the black water tank drain valve shut until it fills up. That was a nightmare and it only took one time to become an understander of the logistics of these toilets. Once that toilet paper gets to the tank,,,,it pretty well turns into a slurry that is no problem AS LONG AS YOU'RE USING A LOT OF WATER. Lots of water is a black tank's best friend.
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09-09-2015, 01:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
I've had a septic at my current location for 13 years!
Toilet paper and all heads right to it!
it's been pumped once.
TURBS
08 duramax tuned n modded
2011 32bhok Sabre
2015 camping "27 nights"
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^^^^^same here^^^^^^
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09-09-2015, 01:07 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Waterloo Region
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TURBS
My sabre does not go straight to the tank, it has Atleast two elbows.
We use plenty of water and have not ever had a black tank issue.
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Yeah, so does mine, but the OP has this.
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Self restraint is for the young. I'm old and want it NOW!
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09-09-2015, 01:10 PM
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Site Team
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Location: Northen IL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trbomax
A pic would help!
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09-09-2015, 01:53 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: oakdale, ca
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Have septic at home and use two ply Northern no problems ever. As for the 5er I use 2 ply scotts it is thin and breaks down well. These RV now a days have such small black water tanks Most between 40 to 60 gal not a lot of room for extra heavy paper. My old unit had 100 gal black and I miss it.
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09-09-2015, 01:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iwritecode
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Yeah - we're all just BS'in in the dark without that.
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Self restraint is for the young. I'm old and want it NOW!
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09-10-2015, 07:49 AM
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Senior Member
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Location: SouthWest Michigan
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We have out Septic Tank pumped every 5 or 6 years,,, TP no problem !!!
We do use 1 ply TP in our RV,,, found that years ago the good stuff would plug the potty in our Flagstaff TT !!! They also make a TP Digester ???
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