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Old 10-20-2011, 04:27 PM   #11
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Really? What did they say when you told them about their mistakes?
When we told them the battery was dead and wanted them to get a charger for us so we could use the power jack, the owner said, 'Oh I told her how to use the jack manually'.
But then he sent 2 guys out with a battery starter and kept that on while I hooked up the truck.

I called him when I got home telling him again that they had left the water pump on and it drained my battery, asking him if it would harm the pump or not. He told me that the pump works on demand so it probably shut off on its own and that there is no way that just the pump could drain the battery (which is a load of crap).

BUT, he did tell me that if it doesn't work he will replace the pump for me.
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:19 PM   #12
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On a recent return home we forgot and left the pump on.
When we got home I lowered the nose as usual so rain drains better off
the roof. The water tank was nearly empty and that left the inlet sucking
air. Pump came on and ran for at least an hour I guess.
I figured it would have burned up by then but it still works.

When it's sucking air and not water it's much quieter. I just happened to
put my hand on the side as I was locking up and felt a tiny vibration.
I started looking around and finally realized the pump was running.
I'd guess it's also not working as hard so probably not going to get as hot.
I don't recommend trying this at home!
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:26 PM   #13
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When we told them the battery was dead and wanted them to get a charger for us so we could use the power jack, the owner said, 'Oh I told her how to use the jack manually'.
But then he sent 2 guys out with a battery starter and kept that on while I hooked up the truck.

I called him when I got home telling him again that they had left the water pump on and it drained my battery, asking him if it would harm the pump or not. He told me that the pump works on demand so it probably shut off on its own and that there is no way that just the pump could drain the battery (which is a load of crap).

BUT, he did tell me that if it doesn't work he will replace the pump for me.
To me, "On demand" means the pump will shut off with back pressure. If a faucet or any other valve is left open, the pump continues to run. Maybe there is a different kind of pump out there, but that is how mine works.

Were you ever able to get close to the pump and listen to see if it is trying to pump?
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Ok, this is what I am going to try.

Put some antifreeze in the fresh tank, turn the pump on, then open the cold then hot taps till they run pink. This should tell me if the pump is working right?
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:31 PM   #15
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To me, "On demand" means the pump will shut off with back pressure. If a faucet or any other valve is left open, the pump continues to run. Maybe there is a different kind of pump out there, but that is how mine works.

Were you ever able to get close to the pump and listen to see if it is trying to pump?
I agree about the 'on demand' stuff. But I did not get close to the pump to listen to it, and as it is at the storage place ATM, I won't get over there till tomorrow to check it out.

I don't think I will take my TT back to this place again for work, if they can't do an easy winterization without making a mistake, makes me wonder what else they forgot to do......
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Ok, this is what I am going to try.

Put some antifreeze in the fresh tank, turn the pump on, then open the cold then hot taps till they run pink. This should tell me if the pump is working right?
Yes, that will tell you if the pump is, or is not working....But....Make sure the pink (Non-toxic) RV antifreeze is above the hole where the pump inlet is placed on the fresh water tank. You may need to park the rig so it slants in that direction.
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Old 10-20-2011, 05:45 PM   #17
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To me, "On demand" means the pump will shut off with back pressure. If a faucet or any other valve is left open, the pump continues to run. Maybe there is a different kind of pump out there, but that is how mine works.

Were you ever able to get close to the pump and listen to see if it is trying to pump?

The pump knows nothing about your system except pressure. If it is below a value it runs; above a value it stops. If there is no water, there is no pressure, so it runs. Opening a "pressurized" system reduces water pressure and the pump comes on. That is what they mean by "demand". A leak (in the line or check valve) will also reduce pressure in the pump and that "demand" will turn on the pump too.

"Demand" has a different meaning when used with the pump.

Additionally, there is a thermal switch that will "open" when the pump motor gets hot, but will close when the pump motor cools down.
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:23 PM   #18
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Yes, that will tell you if the pump is, or is not working....But....Make sure the pink (Non-toxic) RV antifreeze is above the hole where the pump inlet is placed on the fresh water tank. You may need to park the rig so it slants in that direction.
Idk where that hole is located.......is it easily viewable while looking at the tank?

I also have a couple other concerns....

1. They left the caps to the hot and cold line low points off; I found them in the kitchen sink.......so idk how much antifreeze stayed in the lines??

2. There was antifreeze in the WH compartment, so idk if they turned the WH bypass on or not.
When I asked the guy why there was antifreeze there, he said that the guy gives it a little 'shot' because there is a small hose that attaches to the WH??? ( does that even make sense???)
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Old 10-20-2011, 06:29 PM   #19
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The pump knows nothing about your system except pressure. If it is below a value it runs; above a value it stops. If there is no water, there is no pressure, so it runs. Opening a "pressurized" system reduces water pressure and the pump comes on. That is what they mean by "demand". A leak (in the line or check valve) will also reduce pressure in the pump and that "demand" will turn on the pump too.

"Demand" has a different meaning when used with the pump.

Additionally, there is a thermal switch that will "open" when the pump motor gets hot, but will close when the pump motor cools down.
So you are saying that my pump stayed on due to the fact that it had no 'value' because the taps were all open?

Which means that since they left all the taps 'on' and the water pump 'on', and the low point caps 'off'......there probably is no antifreeze left in my system...... (except in the grey water tank).
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I think that your final outcome is that you got your pipes drained of water and subsequently antifreeze. And how much did you pay for this non service?
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