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Old 04-16-2014, 12:44 PM   #21
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Most of the C/G here have self draining Hydrants for freeze protection. Letting a spigot or supply valve turned ON will get a Camper (Chewed Out or Kicked Out) of a C/G where we have stayed! Youroo!!
Actually the owner of the campground where we have our camper tells people to do it.
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:25 PM   #22
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We had 17 degrees F or -8 C last night. I drained low points, water tank and put tank heaters on. Left the furnace run all night so I did nor have to re winterize again. We leave on Sunday. The outside hoses here were stiff at 32 F or 0 C
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We've thawed out and have water by now. Good thing, I need a shower!
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Old 04-16-2014, 01:31 PM   #24
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Surprised? It's a 1/2" or 5/8" dia tube of water and doesn't take long to freeze. Our Igloo ice maker will make cubes in 6 or 7 minutes.
Thread Hijack, Ice is involved

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The ice is required for cooling down the cocktails in the warm summer sun! Does the ice maker keep up with the throngs of frogs in Goshen?

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Old 04-16-2014, 01:38 PM   #25
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Back in January, we were camping here in GA and the forecast was for a low of 37* overnight. I got up at 5 the next morning and it was 27* and EVERYONE in the park had frozen hoses. I usually do what OC and others have said, use the tank and store the hose until above freezing. It didn't really inconvenience us as I always carry a full load of water.
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yeap, done that before. did not pay attention to nighttime lows the the hose froze up. Never had any damage other then one of the inline water filters cracking as it was outside the water bay. Once the sun came out it was about an hour and water was flowing again.
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Epen, your confused with your analysis of temperature by the hour. It seems sometimes to much information, in this case, has made you think incorrectly. Your error was due to not taking into account the wind chill factor.

You might want to read up on that topic, so you understand its not just the ambient temperature that effects rate of freeze, but the winds as well.
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Old 04-16-2014, 03:15 PM   #28
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Epen, your confused with your analysis of temperature by the hour. It seems sometimes to much information, in this case, has made you think incorrectly. Your error was due to not taking into account the wind chill factor.



You might want to read up on that topic, so you understand its not just the ambient temperature that effects rate of freeze, but the winds as well.

...most of the time it's best to keep it simple and not overthink!
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Epen, your confused with your analysis of temperature by the hour. It seems sometimes to much information, in this case, has made you think incorrectly. Your error was due to not taking into account the wind chill factor.

You might want to read up on that topic, so you understand its not just the ambient temperature that effects rate of freeze, but the winds as well.
I got the info from here:
National Weather Service : Observed Weather for past 3 Days : Lancaster Airport
(last 3 days of weather at this particular weather station; though eventually- the overnight of the 15th to morning of the 16th will roll off of the page eventually)

I do see that they have a separate column for the wind chill- and it does put the "wind chill" temperatures below freezing much earlier than 2am. But at the same time, I thought that was just a "feels like to humans" temperature and didn't necessarily effect inanimate objects? You're right that I don't understand the wind chill factor.

I'm not sure that it matters- if there is a freeze chance, I'll be emptying my hose and/or rolling it up to run off of my FW tank from here out.
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Wind Chill only effects breathing animals. Wind will chill faster but not below ambient..

From National Weather Service..

2. Can wind chill impact my car's radiator or exposed water pipe? back

A. The only effect wind chill has on inanimate objects, such as car radiators and water pipes, is to shorten the amount of time for the object to cool. The inanimate object will not cool below the actual air temperature. For example, if the temperature outside is -5 degrees Fahrenheit and the wind chill temperature is -31 degrees Fahrenheit, then your car's radiator will not drop lower than -5 degrees Fahrenheit.
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