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Old 07-31-2016, 08:50 AM   #71
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I been thinkin about what Wolverine said about workin on these things , I have had four Forrest River products . I guess when I fill out my next resume I can honestly say that I work for Forrest River doing their warranty work .
I like F.R. and I kinda get a kick outta fixin some of their problems .In shop Warranty repair is a pain in the butt when ya use your unit every day and live many miles away from your dealer .
Right On Bob !!!
I most cases we can fix things in less time & maybe better than most so called RV tecs !!! Sad but true !!!
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Old 07-31-2016, 08:54 AM   #72
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I think it is more than that. We want light weight trailer with all sorts of amenities and the trailer manufacturers try to give us what we want but some times they fall short with inadequate engineering.
I have seen in many industries that when people are hired to purchase items some times the bottom line they receive junk from the vendors. Even some times they engineer an item where a product they have been used for years is now inadequate to perform the new requirement at hand.
I do not know if this is the case, but if enough people are complaining I do believe there should be a fix for the product from the manufacturer.
Personally I am modifying the trailer, I will make it suit my and my wife's needs.
I am not worried about warranty work anymore, I can fix any part of this trailer right down to the individual electronic components in it.
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:01 AM   #73
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I think it is more than that. We want light weight trailer with all sorts of amenities and the trailer manufacturers try to give us what we want but some times they fall short with inadequate engineering.
I have seen in many industries that when people are hired to purchase items some times the bottom line they receive junk from the vendors. Even some times they engineer an item where a product they have been used for years is now inadequate to perform the new requirement at hand.
I do not know if this is the case, but if enough people are complaining I do believe there should be a fix for the product from the manufacturer.
Personally I am modifying the trailer, I will make it suit my and my wife's needs.
I am not worried about warranty work anymore, I can fix any part of this trailer right down to the individual electronic components in it.
Ditto
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:51 AM   #74
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I kinda feel the same way . The consumer wants it as light and as cheap as can be done . Sometimes the manufacturer gets it correct and some times not . I have had high dollar units fall apart and I have had cheap units fall apart . But you know how it is , some people will bitch even if ya hang em with a brand new rope !
I just put five steel straps fore and aft , 1/8 by 21/2 under my tank and it looks good , fingers crossed !
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Old 07-31-2016, 09:59 AM   #75
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where does this saying the consumer wants it lighter and as cheap as can be done .
I say BS . the consumer only knows what kind of floor plan they like . the lighter, cheaper is all manufacture pushing on the consumer , now 1/2 ton towable , the consumers goes to the dealer see what available and goes from there . i see no consumer groups saying we need lighter and cheaper .
same goes for quality i do not see consumers saying we want cheap low quality units . but that's what they get .
manufactures are simply trying to increase market share by coming out with lighter cheaper so you can tow with your VW
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Old 07-31-2016, 11:26 AM   #76
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It is not just the consumer or just the manufacturer that is to blame, it is both.
the manufacturer does have incentive to make lighter units, these units can be pulled by more types of vehicles and thereby appeal to a larger pool of customers. And the consumer wants to tow the floorplan they like with the vehicle they currently have, they don't want to buy a new vehicle and a new camper..... The consumer also wants to pay as little as possible for the camper. There are many threads here of people going out of state, sometimes across the country to get the camper they want for as little money as possible.
I hear people state that they would pay more money for quality, but in reality, that does not happen. Most of the consumer base does not know quality when they see it and does not want to pay extra for what they can't see.
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Old 07-31-2016, 11:32 AM   #77
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Ronald Reagan - Cold War: "Trust but Verify!"

That's how I approached buying our TT... I looked-over 7-8 same brand/model units on the lot & picked the best one. I then spent 2 hours looking over our unit before making an offer followed by a 2.5 hour PDI performed by our local dealership. I then took the unit home, lifted the coroplast, and inspected the entire underneath... This is the first season we have had any issues so far - replaced Dometic fridge with resdential/inverter for MUCH better space/performance...

Our 2-slide bunkhouse is only 6,500 empty, so I was worried they had cut corners to save weight... However, Primetime has continued producing this same brand/model for over 6 years now with only mostly cosmetic changes... IMO when brands drop models early-on, there are issues...
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Old 07-31-2016, 02:40 PM   #78
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It is not just the consumer or just the manufacturer that is to blame, it is both.
the manufacturer does have incentive to make lighter units, these units can be pulled by more types of vehicles and thereby appeal to a larger pool of customers. And the consumer wants to tow the floorplan they like with the vehicle they currently have, they don't want to buy a new vehicle and a new camper..... The consumer also wants to pay as little as possible for the camper. There are many threads here of people going out of state, sometimes across the country to get the camper they want for as little money as possible.
I hear people state that they would pay more money for quality, but in reality, that does not happen. Most of the consumer base does not know quality when they see it and does not want to pay extra for what they can't see.
I kind of disagree . the consumer doesn't know what they want only what is available . all new units come out with one thing in mind increasing market share . the consumer doesn't know from hyperlite , to hyper heavy . they are at the mercy of the manufacture and rely on them to build units that at least meet basic safety standards which if you ask me are not being met IMO
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:52 PM   #79
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2nd thought !!!
We RV owners are doing way to work on these New unites !!!
We are saving these companies Millions of $$$ every year !!!
By doing there warrantee work for them !!!
Maybe we are the reason for the shoddy work they do ???
I think you are right...but then our lives may depend on the quality of work so perhaps we should make sure it gets done right!
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It is not just the consumer or just the manufacturer that is to blame, it is both.
the manufacturer does have incentive to make lighter units, these units can be pulled by more types of vehicles and thereby appeal to a larger pool of customers. And the consumer wants to tow the floorplan they like with the vehicle they currently have, they don't want to buy a new vehicle and a new camper..... The consumer also wants to pay as little as possible for the camper. There are many threads here of people going out of state, sometimes across the country to get the camper they want for as little money as possible.
I hear people state that they would pay more money for quality, but in reality, that does not happen. Most of the consumer base does not know quality when they see it and does not want to pay extra for what they can't see.
I agree with you. Low cost, being able to pull with your SUV. All this drives consumer behavior. Good or bad it is what the free market economy has created. I noticed the parts you can see (above the trailer frame) are usually "good quality" but if you get underneath, omg it's flimsy. Most people don't get under there and buy purely on aesthetics/snazzy interior and then lowest possible price.
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